Talk:Architecture of London

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Johnbod in topic Misuse of galleries

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To be frank, this page requires much more content, however I am unable to add it unassisted as I have little knowledge on this particular area of the subject, if Londoners could assist me in this I am more then happy to help. There are two pages which I think it could be modelled on, being Architecture of Leeds and Architecture of Birmingham which have a lot more content and reliable citations. There will surely be plenty of sources to base it on, the city in question being London (surely one of the most architectually significant cities along with several other historical European cities. Ta, Mtaylor848 (talk) 00:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

I agree. For this post at the Help Desk, I was just trying to find an example for where content is in a dedicated article, and the first idea I had was this very article, but I was surprised how little content there is. — Sebastian 08:47, 15 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Taking on board the above comments above I have begun to rewrite the sections incorporating architecture & urbanism. I am writing off the top of my head and finding references as i can - please bear with or rather be helpful and find a refernce where once is missing, rather than deleting or reverting. Theres a huge amount missing.

The sections needed will be:

  • Prehistoric - done; not too much to say
  • Roman - done; very important from foundation to later urban morpholgy of city
  • Romanesque - The White Tower
  • Mediaeval / Gothic to Renaissance/ Elizabethan - mainly wewstminster Abbey and surviving timber framed buildings ; Inns of Court and Lambeth Palace.
  • Baroque Wren & Hawksmoor & Inigo Jones
  • Georgian / Neo Palladian / Classical - expanded this section - needs key examples such as Somerset House
  • Regency to Victorian/ - Self explanatory - Railways/ Gothic Regent Street,
  • Edwardian - Department stores, Mansion Blocks
  • Modernism - Royal Festival Hall Commonwealth Institute centre Point Euston Plaza Paternoster Sq = Cedric Price Archigram
  • Brutalism - Robin Hood Economist Building , Goldfinger , Barbican Alexandra Road , Lutyens
  • High Tech - Foster Piano Rogers
  • Post Modernism - Stirling, No 1 Poultry
  • London Minimalism - Fretton Pawson Silvestrin
  • New London Vernacular - Duggan Morris Sergison Bates Stephen Taylor Maccreanor Lavington AHMMFTNLH

Truth regards not who is the speaker, nor in what manner it is spoken, but that the thing be true; and she does not despise the jewel which she has rescued from the mud, but adds it to her former treasures 23:45, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

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This page looks like a good start, on London architecture.

I was quite surprised, however, about the external links policy.

There is a link to the VERY brief listings on archiseek and then two links to a commercial site (Blue Crow media).

I tried to insert a link to a London-specific, growing website with significant detail (that I am connected to, admittedly) and got a rather supercilious scold about Wikipedia not being a collection of links.

I honestly think that many readers of the Wiki entry about London Architecture would find the CLAXITY.COM website useful.

~~Jjkat19~~

Further Page Improvements

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As you can see over the last few months I have made substantial additions and improvements to the page. I have written whole new sections for London in the Middle Ages (Norman, Gothic and Tudor), Stuart London (Indigo Jones), Baroque London (Wren, Hawksmoor) and made improvements to the section on Georgian London (London in the 17th and 18th century is my main area of expertise). I have also written a section about Postmodern and High Tech Architecture.I have also taken great care adding images to each section, both in the body of the text and a large gallery of buildings for each section listed chronologically.

Overall I think the page is now much more complete and visually appealing, but there are still improvements to be made:

- Extra detail and content in the section about Victorian Architecture would be great. The Victorian era is arguably the densest and most ecclectic period in London's architectural history. It would be great if someone could add more specifically about Victorian industrial and railway architecture; the underground, sewage works, pumping stations, warehouses, shipping architecture etc. It would also be good if someone could add more about low victorian architecture; the victorian terraced house for instance.

- Improvements to the section of Post War architecture: This section is good but is too specifically about Brutualism. It would be great if someone could add more about Post War reconstruction plans after the Blitz and slum clearance.

Let me know if you any further suggestions or points to make about my additions.

~~tf93uk~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by T93uk (talkcontribs) 13:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Misuse of galleries

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This article contains an extraordinary number of images, far more than would be necessary to support the points made in the text. Further, the number seems to be increasing rapidly. And images are being added with explicit pixel dimensions, overriding (i.e. preventing) users' preferences for image display sizes, as well as resulting in excessively large and variable-sized images, grouped together in several different ways (single images one above the other, double and triple images beside each other, 160-px high galleries, 200-px high galleries, 1223-px panoramas, and so on). WP:IG states explicitly that "Wikipedia is not an image repository. A gallery is not a tool to shoehorn images into an article, and a gallery consisting of an indiscriminate collection of images of the article subject should generally either be improved in accordance with the below paragraphs or moved to Wikimedia Commons." This article is clearly contravening this requirement. Each section of the article should be illustrated with one or two images to make its point clearly. And (by the way) there should be exactly one image in the lead section. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:44, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'm strongly in favour of the proper use of galleries for visual subjects, but I agree there are far too many images here. In particular the captionless format should almost never be used, and captions should justify the importance of the image to the article. Nearly all these seem to have been added by User:T93uk and need to be sorted out. Multiple images, which I generally don't like, are not the same as galleries, and the two should not be confused. The formats of the galleries should be made consistent. Looking at a version a year ago, large numbers of gallery images once had captions have had them removed or hidden. Also the lead is far too long. Johnbod (talk) 13:57, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Chiswick Chap and Johnbod, criticism taken on board. I wrote the majority of this article last year and used the 'Architecture of Paris' article as my basis which also uses a lot of images, but in hindsight it has probably been done better than my own attempt. Feel free to remove or edit images from the body of the text as you feel appropriates. T93uk