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Name Origin

It mentions the fake story Helders told about the name, but there's no mention on the real story of how they got their name. Anybody know? 75pickup (talk · contribs) 01:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

They tell different journalists different stories, so we'll probably never actually know for sure. Big Luth (talk) 17:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

third album/new material section removed

i could not find it, maybe i'm just a bit dense, but why is it gone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Readymade01 (talk • contribs) 05:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

oh, I, myself, am wondering who forgot to put the reference that shows that the new album will be called "Five Kicks"... I googled "five kicks arctic" and anything alike... nothing shows... I'm removing it. meteoritu talk 2:02 AM, July 26th 2008. —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

pedro martinez

someone wrote that pedro martinez used to be in the band? lol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.223.66 (talk) 01:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

68.173.143.84 (talk) 00:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Lead guitar

Who plays lead guitar? Turner or Cook? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.110.114.61 (talk) 10:33, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

• It's Alex Turner. Meteoritu (talk). 14:59, January 18th, 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.86.63 (talk)

• Sorry about before.

Clean up

The part about the untitled third album could do with a clean up, there's way too much information in it. It's as long as the previouse 2 album secions. 89.100.221.196 (talk) 14:33, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

• Agree. I've done some, but it's still a bit of a mess, so tagged. Ohconfucius (talk) 03:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I've tried to clean up some arctic monkeys related things over the past year but people seem to ignore it, i'm not all that good at adding sources and stuff so I think i'll just give up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.221.196 (talk) 02:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Arctic Monkeys/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

Starting GA reassessment as part of the GA Sweeps process. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

I can try to get to this stuff for you.  GARDEN  says no to drama 11:44, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose):

   • Consider the existing weasel words tag. Please go through the article again and check for clear encyclopaedic writing. The lead should be a concise summary of the whole artcile which it is not at the moment. Please read WP:Lead section and apply. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Done

   b (MoS):

   • I think the Awards section could do with a short summmary of the Awards article. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC), but that is not necessarily mean a failure of GA status. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Done

   • Added a summary of the awards section - any comments let me know. Nick Ottery (talk) 07:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references):

   • There are a number of dead links found using this tool. You may find these at the Internet Archive. Also look at the green redirects, mostly on media sites where the url has changed. It is best to change these to the final URL so that the link is preserved. There are a number of bare URl references which need to be formatted using WP:Citation templates for WP:Consistency. Ref #44 just cite the artcile using the cite news template, no need for alink to photobucket which proves nothing. Ref#31 needs to be properly formatted, see WP:Consistency. references appear to substantiate statemenst. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Done

   • Fixed most of the dead links. All redirects now are direct links. Fixed the Photobucket ref, is now a {{cite news}} ref. Bare links will still need formatting.  GARDEN  says no to drama 12:53, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

   b (citations to reliable sources):

   • REf #48 [1] is a blog, not RS. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Done

   • Replaced with an NME ref.

   c (OR):

3. It is broad in its scope.

   a (major aspects):

   • Although obviously will need constant updates. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

   b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

   • Some vandalism but no evidence of edit warring.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):

   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   • OK, some issues which need addressing above. On hold for seven days. Major contributors and projects are being notified. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
   • OK, I think the concerns have been sufficently met. I would still recommend a one sentence summary of the awards in that section. Keep GA status. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

"Record deals" section

This section states that in October 2005 they were ignoring the record labels, selling out gigs across the UK. It then goes on to say that they signed a deal with Domino in June 2005. Either the dates are wrong or they weren't still ignoring record labels at that time.--Michig (talk) 12:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I've edited this section so that it no longer conflicts with itself.--Michig (talk) 13:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Influences

Reading the influences section on this is depressing. Are The Clash really a direct influence, except in a very broad sense? I would say that I was pretty au fait with their interviews over the years and I have never heard them saying once that they have even listened to The Clash. Furthermore, The Smiths and The Beatles? Shit, that's real insight. Wouldn't it be more englightening to say that they have cited Strangeways, Here We Come as an influence or that Rubber Soul is Turners all-time favourite record? Moreover, there is hardly any mention of the influence of rap on Turner as a lyricist. For example, Turner has named prime early influences on his lyrics as Braintax, Roots Manuva and Dizzee Rascal? I mean, Turner has cited people as diverse Jake Thackray and Rod McKuen as influences. Wouldn't it be better to put them in as well?

Also I don't understand this working class/chav theme. It's just weak media pigeonholing, in my opinion and furthermore, only really specific to a few tracks on their first album. Don't middle class kids go out and get drunk as well? Besides, it's not a topic they're ever going to write about again....

Someone please disagree with me or else I'm going to take a righteous cleaver to that whole bit.Prylon (talk) 00:33, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

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