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Requested move
editI am Argentine and I never heard of something like the 'Greater Argentina'. Frankly, the first time I came upon this page I though that the matter was the Argentine nationalist claims over the old territories of the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, which makes more sense for the article's title. My proposal is to rename the page "Argentine irredentism", which decribes more accurately the subject. Any comments?.--Darius (talk) 21:16, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry for a delay in my response, as I research into the subject the move seems more and more proper, I had been mostly unaware of the United Provinces of the Río de la Plata when I wrote this article, perhaps this page could be moved to "Argentine irredentism" as suggested and another article about irridentist feelings over Bolivia and Paraguay could in time be written in place of the redirect created from the move, I will move the page shortly. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 02:43, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Done! – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 02:57, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you!. The issue of irredentist feelings over the old viceroyalty is actually an academic matter raised by nationalist historians, not an official policy. The Argentine government dropped any claim by the end of the XIX century. Best regards.--Darius (talk) 17:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Done! – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 02:57, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Antarctica?
editI don't think that the claims on Antarctica belong here. It is not a case of a country claiming sovereignty over some other's country territory: right now, Antarctica does not "belong" to anyone, not Argentina, but neither Chile or Britain. Cambalachero (talk) 19:30, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- Basically agree, We could speak in equal terms about "Chilean irredentism" or even "British irredentism" over Antarctica, since it is in practice a case of res nullius.--Darius (talk) 22:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
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Historical irredentism
editOnly one mention of Tarija and no mention of Argentina claims in the Chaco. Don't Argentina irrendentists also usually claim Chile and Banda Oriental? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.27.120 (talk) 12:19, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Irredentism? Really?
editIrredentism and expansionism are closely related but distinctly different concepts. It is difficult to see how much, if not all, of Argentina's claims in the South Atlantic and Antartica can reasonably be described as irrendist. It is important to remember that states involved in an expansionist policy will often try to justify their actions by using less objectionable irredentist terminology. Are we not falling into the trap set by the expansionist Argentine state when we describe Argentina's claims as irredentism when all they really are is good old-fashioned expansionism? Roger 8 Roger (talk) 22:22, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Great Argentina?
editSee today's edits. 2x2leax, why have you added 'Great Argentina'? Grammatically, it cannot be an alternative to irridentism: one is a concrete noun while the other is a concept, an abstract noun - you cannot compare the two. In any case, they mean different things, as in the above section. Also, where are your sources? I have never heard of 'Great Argentina'. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 08:02, 29 September 2020 (UTC)