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Hanja
editWhat's the Hanja for Arirang? Kokiri 16:13, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Is that a trick question? There are no Hanja, since it's a native Korean word. In fact, there are no Sino-Korean words in the refrain, and only 3 in the first verse: 십 (十), 리 (里), and 병 (病) --Sewing 20:48, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:555F:F748:4850:4845:613A:C279 (talk) 03:33, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Pun
editArirang means : Ancient native korean word. 'Ari' means "beautiful" (example. 아리따운 native korean word means "beautiful", "lovely", "charming")
'Rang' means "dear" so, arirang means "beautiful dear" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.148.48.216 (talk) 01:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- You state, both here and in the article itself, that arirang means "ancient native Korean word" and that it means "beautiful dear." Is it a pun? ➥the Epopt 15:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
It's a Korean word that means beautiful dear. (Wikimachine 15:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC))
We've been studying Seopyeonje in our our New Korean Cinema class and my professor (native speaker) says the translation of "beautiful" on wikipedia is inaccurate. The film subtitles translated "arirang" as "my dear". --jess (talk) 04:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
The introduction is a little contradictory. It says there is no direct modern meaning, and then next sentence, translates into pretty clear modern meaning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariarirang (talk • contribs) 16:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
I think the translation of the lyrics has many problems too. Going over the Arirang Pass is Nim (the lover), not I (the singer). Can someone add a more direct transliteration to that table? Something like:
Arirang, Arirang, Arariyo Going over Arirang Pass Dear (you), spurning me and going away Before going 10 ri, will get foot disease (or injury) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariarirang (talk • contribs) 17:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
The claim that there is no modern derivation seems accurate. Trying to contrive a an ad-hoc "translation" out of the modern meanings of the individual syllables 아리 and 랑 seems, well, contrived.
I'm not a native speaker, however. I'd be interested in hearing a native's perspective on this, but AFAIK the "beautiful dear" part should be removed. I'm just not bold enough to do it without confirmation first. :)
Also, although this is English Wikipedia, it would be nice to see the actual Hangul lyrics, possibly along with a direct transliteration as it can be assumed most users of English Wikipedia cannot read Hangul. -Stian (talk) 14:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
After finishing on the talk page, I decided to add a qualifier to the "beautiful dear" interpretation that it was unlikely to match the ancient meaning. I felt the clarification was needed, but I didn't want to outright delete the modern interpretation without consensus. -Stian (talk) 14:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Arirang is from an ancient myth. The inhabitants of a small village lives happily beside the Arirang Hill. If they climb the hill, and passes over, they can go no more than 4 kilometers before they grow "heart-sick" wanting to return immediately to their home. The classical Korean dance/ballet also depicts going over this hill as the pains experienced when separated from the woman you love and yearn to return to. (Mariner) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.89.23.102 (talk) 11:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
The article is not very readable. It would be nice to add a brief description in the beginning (a story, that this song is national song of Korea, etc). The article starts with variations of the song and other details, which can be confusing... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Optimus2005 (talk • contribs) 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
History According to Pete Seeger
editThe folk singer Pete Seeger claims on one of his albums that Arirang was supposedly composed by a condemned political prisoner in the 16th Century. According to this account, the man was hanged on a hill called Arirang, and sang this song, about the beauty of his native land, on the way to execution. After this, all condemned prisoners were allowed to sing the same song.
Is this an actual traditional legend about the creation of the song, or is a modern creation? Should it be mentioned on this page?
Balladeer25 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balladeer25 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
North or South
editHow does the song play out in North Korean and South Korean culture respectively. InTheRevolution2 (talk) 23:46, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
I believe the giant show North Korea is famous far is called Arirang Ottawakismet (talk) 01:30, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Michigan State Police.gif which links to /wiki/AR-15
editDunno why it's there and I can't find it to edit it out. It would be nice if someone could. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.37.117 (talk) 20:33, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
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Original Korean lyrics and proposed usage as national anthem?
editSince 2012, this article has had a template on it that said: "This article is missing information about original Korean lyrics and proposed usage as national anthem." I doubt it's possible to find the original lyrics, considering the song is likely 600 years old. I was also unable to find any sources saying that "Arirang" was once proposed as the national anthem (for Korea? South Korea? North Korea?). If anyone has more information about that, please add it to the article, but I felt like it was safe to remove the template. Lenoresm (talk) 20:25, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Founded the hanja of the song title and I will explain the meaning
editThe real hanja for Arirang is 我離娘(read 아리랑).
- 我 = I
- 離 = depart
- 娘 = lady
So if you see the lyrics it is about departing from your loved one, so the title simply means "I Had Departed From My Lady".
- Source is Why? Everyday Life and Conventions
--211.251.172.76 (talk) 03:00, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, I've requested in the article that this source be verified. Please provide more information (such as a link to the source, its author, etc) so that others can verify this information. Lenoresm (talk) 16:25, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Other article inconsistent with this one?
editIn the Wikipedia article on the book for which external sources give the title "The Song of Arirang", Wikipedia has The Song of Ariran (book) instead, which I think is an error. I'm not knowledgeable enough to change it. though... AnonMoos (talk) 15:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Broken Unesco links: this might not be the only page concerned
editHi!
On this page, the two Unesco links were broken, so I fixed them:
http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/en/lists?RL=00914 -> https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/arirang-folk-song-in-the-democratic-people-s-republic-of-korea-00914
http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/en/lists?RL=00445 -> https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/arirang-lyrical-folk-song-in-the-republic-of-korea-00445
Alas, I could only fix it for this page. In order to do a more extensive fix for Unesco links, maybe this might require making a bot do it? I'm not sure if this is even allowed though, and in which cases.
In order to make an algorithm that replaces the links, you might want to notice that links of the form https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/00914 work as well, so you'd just need to replace links of the form http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/COUNTRY_CODE/lists?RL=XXXXX by links of the form https://ich.unesco.org/COUNTRY_CODE/RL/XXXXX.
Just dropping that out there ^^ Maxime182752 (talk) 15:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)