Talk:Armando Iannucci

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I have tagged this for clean up as it contains too much POV and needs expanding. Logan1138 16:45, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

"Attempted Clean Up"

I've tried to clean it up to a better state than it was before. 81.179.68.137 18:14, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Bah, that was me, I just forgot to log in. Sorry! DE 18:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

OA = "old Aloysiusian"

As a former St. Aloysius pupil, the letters "OA" appear after his name, to indicate that he is an "old Aloysiusian".

Eh? I don't think so. Flapdragon 23:56, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

(re : the removed "Oxford" comment here that will show up in the history; apologies, I thought that all reference had been removed, not the repeated reference) Seb Patrick 12:41, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Sectioning

Please do not add pointless, unhelpful headings like "biography" or "life and career". This article is a biography, those things are implied by the fact that it's an article about a person. The heading in question does not help usefully structure the article, it is not a logical way to group the paragraphs in question and it creates an unhelpful stubby introduction. I get the feeling that somebody is adding it to shift the TOC up the page, which can be done in more sensible ways which comply with WP:MOS. Joe D (t) 14:00, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Believe it or not someone's life and their work are not always indistinguishable. And having a table of contents towards the end of the article, just before a set of appendices, looks a bit silly, don't you think? But if you know a better way of doing it, fine, why not be constructive and implement it rather than just repeatedly reverting people? At least give us a clue what you have in mind. Flapdragon 14:25, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

To my mind, the style of heading sections erc are still evolving and I don't want to make edits without discussion. I am just starting to edit and will make typo edits etc but these kind of things I would rather talk over. Bit I think the "Background" section could quite happily be made part of the inital section. It's not very long but(and) gives a few more facts. Otherwise the initial section is practically useless.

SiTrew xxii-Jan-mmix 23.18 GMT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.102.156.63 (talk) 23:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

PAC = "Custard"

A seriously funny man - deserves to be as popular as custard (PAC). The South Bank Show appearance didn't convince me he was up to a PhD on Milton. Moral: never do comedy with Melvyn Bragg. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pliny (talk • contribs) 2006-06-20.

Having seen his programme on Milton, I know I was right. Moral: never do poetry with BBC 4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pliny (talk • contribs) 16:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

What on earth are you talking about? Bob talk 17:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

It's official. He is the hardman of political satire. Pliny (talk) 22:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Post at Oxford

Does anyone know if he is associated with St Anne's College as the visiting professor? I know he gave his first talk at St Anne's College. Malrase 19:38, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

No, he wasn't associated with St Anne's - his association was, as far as I know, with the English Faculty rather than any particular college. The theatre at St Anne's was simply used as the venue for the first two of the four lectures (I know, 'cos I was there!) Seb Patrick 14:48, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Facts & Fancies/Scraps With Iannucci

For future reference, these were actually two different series for BBC Radio 4, very different in style and broadcast in different years. I'll try and find proper dates for both.

The Armando Iannucci Shows

So, what's this and how come I've not heard of it?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000GUK3NI/ref=pd_ys_ir_all_10/026-3806662-9841269?ie=UTF8

Doctor Sinister 11:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

There's a page on them at The Armando Iannucci Shows, and it's included in his list of programmes in this article. They were only released a couple of days ago on DVD, although they are deserving of a larger mention in this article as well. Bob talk 14:50, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Glasgow University?

Does anyone know of a reference for the "University of Glasgow" comment? I couldn't find anything mentioning him being a Glasgow University alumni on the internet other than mirrors of this page. Also, in every television/newspaper interview I've seen he only mentions his time at Oxford. I suspect there may have been confusion over the College, perhaps, on this edit. Bob talk 01:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Removed it; the edit says that they head it on a Radio interview. A transcript of the interview would be a good place to start.--THobern 02:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

This Glasgow University stuff has turned up again. It's widely repeated, but I rather fear it's from this site. Surely his honorary doctorate from there would mention he was an alumnus? This Evening Standard interview says his brother went there, but doesn't mention it if he did. Bob talk 18:27, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

The Saturday Night Armistice

There is no reference to The Saturday Night Armistice in this article. Is there a particular reason for that or has it just been overlooked by accident? KMcD (talk) 16:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

It is linked in a list of his programmes, but you're right that there's no specific mention of it. There's no reason why, though, other than the page needs expanding. I'll try and get around to it at some point. Bob talk 09:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Advertisement director section

The stuff about classical music and Skin Deep should not appear in this section - it has nothing to do with advertising. "Librettist" might be a good sub-heading, since that was his role in the operetta.--GuillaumeTell 17:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Mary Whitehouse Experience

Armando produced several radio series of this influential show (taking over after the second series I believe), and also produced the TV series. Also, it's radio successor Loose Talk. This isn't mentioned here or in the MWE article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffcb25 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

It's mentioned in the article that he produced the radio version, although I'm not sure if he produce the TV version - there's no mention of it on his IMDb credits [1] and no mention of him on the TV series credits. He hadn't really done any TV stuff at the time - that was really as a result of On the Hour's TV transfer. Bob talk 17:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Richard Herring Comedy Hero?

This sentence cites a source that doesn't back up its claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.0.39.164 (talk) 23:47, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

That was vandalism from 12 June 2012. Now fixed. -- Dr Greg  talk  01:56, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Nationality

Wikipedia has recently updated [[2]] the guidelines on British nationals who are made up from the 4 constituent countries within the United Kingdom. The decision has been made that the term 'British' be applied to British citizens and not their constituent countries, as a result I have updated the lede. Twobells (talk) 21:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

That's a user essay rather than a Wikipedia guideline, and it seems to discourage the enforced uniformity you're implying. Why exactly is "British comedian from Scotland" better than "Scottish comedian" here? --McGeddon (talk) 23:42, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I can't see anything in that essay to support the claim that a decision has been made to use "British". On those grounds I am undoing Twobells's change. Note also that Twobells left in place the reference to justify using "Scottish"! -- Dr Greg  talk  00:50, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Tongue International déjà vu?

Not sure about this:

• ISBN 9780316854184 - contrary to our sources [3][4], according to Google Books, a 320-page edition of Tongue International would appear to date back to 2001. (Shome mishtake, shurely?)

86.130.63.47 (talk) 23:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

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People's Vote

Pinging @John:. Regarding this diff what do you mean by "proper"? The citation observes WP:PRIMARY: A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge. The text is a straightforward, descriptive statement of fact:

• In August 2018, Iannucci announced his support for People's Vote, a campaign group calling for a public vote on the final Brexit deal between the UK and the European Union.

What is the problem? --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 18:27, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

The source. Per WP:BLPSOURCES we cannot use the Daily Mirror to source something on a living person. --John (talk) 23:19, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

• The Vintage Feminist, John We could use this. Per WP:BLPSPS, tweets can be used if they are published/written by the subject of the article (this is), and provided it meets the requirements of WP:SELFPUB, which this does. Propose reinserting the material, sourced to his tweet. GirthSummit _(blether) 11:54, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

@John: Sorry but the source is not the Daily Mirror, the source is Iannucci - he wrote the article. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 19:56, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm not comfortable sourcing something like this to a tweet. And it can't be a tabloid either. --John (talk) 16:19, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Could you explain your thinking on that please - what is it that you're not comfortable with? WP:SELFPUB is pretty clear on this, and it explicitly mentions Twitter as an acceptable source for claims like this - it's not about third parties, it's not about events, it's not promotional - it's just an expression of his political views. GirthSummit _(blether) 16:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi @John:, what do you think of the following using a citation from the Metro newspaper?

In August 2018, Iannucci announced his support for People's Vote, a campaign group calling for a public vote on the final Brexit deal between the UK and the European Union.

--The Vintage Feminist (talk) 14:49, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

References

@The Vintage Feminist: I actually already reinserted the assertion, using the Mirror and Iannucci's tweet as sources. I brought this up at RSN - I wasn't overwhelmed by the flood of responses, but another editor agreed that the Mirror article was reliable as a self-authored piece per WP:SELFPUB, which is the same argument I make about Twitter. If it's also mentioned in the Metro, that adds a bit more wide - this is an uncontroversial assertion of his views, reported in at least two British newspapers. I can't see any reason not to include it. GirthSummit _(blether) 17:39, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: Okay I've added the Metro as an additional ref. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 18:32, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

• I've removed it again pending the addition of proper sources. WP:BLPSOURCES definitely comes into play here. --John (talk) 07:08, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

@John: These are proper sources. We've discussed that here at this page, and at RSN as linked above, and so far the only person concerned about sourcing is you. I asked you above for a reason why you were uncomfortable with Twitter, but you haven't responded. This material is not sourced exclusively to tabloids (so far it's two tabloids plus his own Twitter account), and it's not controversial - can you please provide an actual argument for why you think it should be excluded, rather than just links to policies that don't, as far as I can see, apply? GirthSummit _(blether) 07:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Also, The Evening Standard. Another tabloid.GirthSummit _(blether) 10:11, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

I've reworded the assertion, so that the text attributes the writing to the relevant sources rather than making it in Wikipedia's voice. To be honest, I think that's a bit clunky, but if the nature of the sources makes you uncomfortable hopefully attributing the statements will provide appropriate distance from them. GirthSummit _(blether) 12:21, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Bibliography

I have commenced a tidy-up of the Bibliography section using cite templates. Capitalization and punctuation follow standard cataloguing rules in AACR2 and RDA, as much as Wikipedia templates allow it. ISBNs and other persistent identifiers, where available, are commented out, but still available for reference. This is a work in progress; feel free to continue. Sunwin1960 (talk) 01:21, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

What's up with the favourite film section?

Why do we need to include this 2A02:C7C:9B36:7D00:B970:F5CE:AB8D:36F6 (talk) 07:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)