Talk:Arms (video game)
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Capitalized Stylizations
editI have noticed the "do not capitalize note" in the lead section. It says not to include ARMS as the title per MOS:ALLCAPS. MOS:ALLCAPS seems to be talking about the article title itself, not the the "stylized as..." note. Should we not be able to include "(stylized as ARMS)" following the title in the lead? As the game title is trademarked, it seems that it is alright to include the "stylized as..." note per MOS:TM/STYLE. We aren't trying to capitalize the title, just adding a note on stylization. —TheAnonymousNerd (talk • contribs) 16:51, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- @TheAnonymousNerd: All other cases of a game in caps (full or partial) get changed to normal case, and it's normally not mentioned in the lead as a style either. See other games like PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds and Pokémon Go for similar cases. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 06:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused by that, actually. I'm not sure why all-caps stylizations are omitted and altered when all other forms of stylization are not, including all-lowercase examples such as Killer7. Not only that, but non-videogame examples such as the Ouya get to keep their all-caps. MOS:TM/STYLE does list "capitalization changes" as appropriate uses of stylization on Wikipedia, and it says nothing about making an exception for all-caps only. It just seems like a random omission, especially as Wikipedia strives to honor official sources as best it can. Okoa (talk) 13:01, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
- Bring this up at WP:VG then, as I'm only doing what I've always seen done. WP:COMMONNAME often trumps any sort of official stylization if it's used more often in reliable sources. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 17:43, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Dissident93: I've been wondering about this, as well. Games like Rage, Killer7, Nier, and Nier: Automata, not to mention films like Nymphomaniac, include their respective stylistic titles in parentheses after stating the unformatted title. I understand bringing up WP:COMMONNAME, but that only applies to the title of the article. I'd agree that the official title shouldn't be stylized as ARMS, but I don't see any problem with citing accepted stylizations. I'm pretty sure "Arms (stylized as ARMS)" would be reasonable, considering. — snoɯʎuoɥʇuɐ 05:32, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- I'm aware of that, however those (sans Rage) at least make some effort in being unique, this is simply in all caps, so it just seems like too minor of a thing to really document. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 07:49, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Dissident93: I've been wondering about this, as well. Games like Rage, Killer7, Nier, and Nier: Automata, not to mention films like Nymphomaniac, include their respective stylistic titles in parentheses after stating the unformatted title. I understand bringing up WP:COMMONNAME, but that only applies to the title of the article. I'd agree that the official title shouldn't be stylized as ARMS, but I don't see any problem with citing accepted stylizations. I'm pretty sure "Arms (stylized as ARMS)" would be reasonable, considering. — snoɯʎuoɥʇuɐ 05:32, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- Bring this up at WP:VG then, as I'm only doing what I've always seen done. WP:COMMONNAME often trumps any sort of official stylization if it's used more often in reliable sources. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 17:43, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused by that, actually. I'm not sure why all-caps stylizations are omitted and altered when all other forms of stylization are not, including all-lowercase examples such as Killer7. Not only that, but non-videogame examples such as the Ouya get to keep their all-caps. MOS:TM/STYLE does list "capitalization changes" as appropriate uses of stylization on Wikipedia, and it says nothing about making an exception for all-caps only. It just seems like a random omission, especially as Wikipedia strives to honor official sources as best it can. Okoa (talk) 13:01, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
- The game's name (ARMS) is actually uppercase, by the way; it's not just stylization. Can't a page have an uppercase name? --Jv110 (talk) 17:14, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- No, it can't. Read WP:ALLCAPS. It's a waste of time to even note. Writing in all caps is hardly a stylization. Half the time it's just a font choice. But even if it's style - so what? How is the reader helped by pointing this out? Is there some reader out there who is stupid enough to not recognize that "Arms" and "ARMS" refer to the same game? Sergecross73 msg me 18:59, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Some stylizations can be accepted for the page name (iOS) or at least mentioned in prose (per the examples above), but I've never seen something as minor as allcaps be included in either. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:21, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Dissident93 Plenty of titles have all-caps on the cover, I get that, and it isn't to be commented about as it is just a choice of font/art/whichever. If the primary source and the large majority of secondary sources refer to it consistently, however, my understanding is that Wikipedia acknowledges the most used and well-known option. That applies in this case as a quick Google search will show that there is a clear majority in usage of "ARMS". Some do, however, use "Arms" but it isn't 50-50 by any stretch. --Bchill53 (talk) 15:46, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Bchill53: It could probably go in the note along with the Japanese name, but I don't see how or why it's important enough to clearly state the game is spelled in all caps. MOS:ALLCAPS is the guideline we are following here. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 17:34, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Story Section
editWith the new Nintendo Direct out, can we add a story section to this page? There's some history to the arms that can be added. Henreeeeee (talk) 07:20, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Henreeeeee: Sure, go ahead and add a "Story" section on the page. Just make sure it can be covered by sources and that it's relevant material to include. A short paragraph is probably fine. —TheAnonymousNerd (talk • contribs) 14:51, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- @TheAnonymousNerd: Is it okay to use the Nintendo Direct youtube video as a source? I can't find any good articles covering the story. Henreeeeee (talk) 06:10, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Just wanted to mention this since its sort of related to the story (or atleast the story of the Arms ability); according to the official ARMS Twitter account, the mask that all the fighters wears is the one that allows their arms (or hair in Twintelle's case) to remain 'springy'. If they remove it, their arms goes back to normal. Here is the source (its mentioned near the bottom along with the link for the source).195.67.78.50 (talk) 07:48, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Development source
edit- Webster, Andrew (June 6, 2017). "How Nintendo created its wild new cast of fighters for Switch game Arms". The Verge. Retrieved June 7, 2017.
Early prototype shown in GDC 2018
editNintendo showcased the early prototype phase of Arms at this year's Game Developers Conference. Here is the link if anyone is interested. Two of the ideas that didn't make it into the final version was a bowling mini-game, and what appears to be a first-person perspective option.--195.67.78.50 (talk) 08:26, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
In addition, here is a Youtube video where Kosuke Yabuki talks a bit about the game's development.195.67.78.50 (talk) 07:34, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Playable Characters
editI am reviewing a draft on Min Min and noticed that this article does not identify the playable characters. I see that there is an article on Twintelle. Has there been a consensus not to have articles on the characters, or has this just happened (as in not happened)? Robert McClenon (talk) 22:57, 7 July 2020 (UTC)