Talk:Armstrong Siddeley
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editArmstrong Siddeley is the correct name .(it was never written as Armstrong-Siddeley)
- Armstrong Siddeley exists as a re-direct page to Armstrong-Siddeley. Is it time to swap them over? Malcolma 17:15, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I would definitely say it's time to switch them over. Thadius856 04:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Aero Engines
editHere's a couple of AS piston engines not mentioned in the template and, (as yet), without articles, if anyone wants to include them:
Ian Dunster 18:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Queer that they switched from big cat names to -hound names for that pair, was there something special about them, or did they just run out of cats? :-)on reading that link, they are inline rather than radial, I presume that is it. Emoscopes Talk 19:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure - I seem to remember reading the Deerhound was a multi-row radial, i.e., a radial with four or five inline rows but I may be mistaken. I know that a pair of Deerhounds were installed in a Whitley testbed, but that's about all I know ATM. Ian Dunster 12:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- [2] looks like an interesting 3-row 21-cylinder radial to me, and looks particularly compact too. Emoscopes Talk 12:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- It's also the name of a booster-rocket on the Mark II Sea Slug missile. I think dog and bird names were used for rockets by the MoS. Emoscopes Talk 12:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes that looks like it - the photo I most remember is of the engine installation of the Deerhound Whitley. The engine was quite closely-cowled and the propeller had a large spinner fairing it into the cowling.
- It's also the name of a booster-rocket on the Mark II Sea Slug missile. I think dog and bird names were used for rockets by the MoS. Emoscopes Talk 12:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- [2] looks like an interesting 3-row 21-cylinder radial to me, and looks particularly compact too. Emoscopes Talk 12:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure - I seem to remember reading the Deerhound was a multi-row radial, i.e., a radial with four or five inline rows but I may be mistaken. I know that a pair of Deerhounds were installed in a Whitley testbed, but that's about all I know ATM. Ian Dunster 12:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Actually the engines were either named by the manufacturer themselves or were possibly allocated one by the MoS when the manufacturer didn't have a naming scheme, and were based on series - Bristol engines used heavenly bodies/mythology (Olympus, Thor, Odin, etc), Metrovick gemstones, (e.g. Beryl, Sapphire, etc.) Armstrong Siddeley snakes, (e.g., Viper, Adder etc.).
- I have always found the naming schemes most useful for remembering the originators of engine designs, especially when they get passed-on to other manufacturers. Once you know them then it's easy to remember that, for instance, the Sapphire was originally a Metrovick engine!, so the Sea Slug engine/motor may possibly originally have been an Armstrong Siddeley design. Ian Dunster 16:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Without anything apart from a "hunch", I think that rockets are the exception to the case here. there's a great list of rockets here; Skomer.u-net.com The liquid-fuelled rocket "engines" seem to use "S" names; Armstrong Siddeley Snarler, AS Spartan, AS Stentor, de Havilland Scorpion (ex-Napier), dH Spectre, dH Sprite. Bristol Siddeley produced a (non-military) series named Alpha through Gamma. The solid-fuelled motors seem to be using either dogs or birds. Because this system "seems" to hold across all manufacturers and most rockets that at least reached testing, I was presuming there had to be a higher authority on naming, i.e the MoS. Emoscopes Talk 17:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think you may be right, but I have a feeling the MoS may have named some though. Apparently that Skomer site is somewhat out-of-date now, as a friend of mine who has now left Wikipedia knows the site-author and he no-longer has access to the site so he's unable to update the site with corrected information that has since been declassified. As-is, it contains a number of errors apparently. BTW, in my 'travels' searching for that plans-link I found this: [3] which may interest you. Ian Dunster 11:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- I have found in a book, mention of a plane with an Armstrong Siddeley Puma engine. I have included it in the winning list of the King's Cup Race. Does anyone know if this is a mistake or a proto-engine that was later renamed? Thanks for any future help.--FruitMonkey 19:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think you may be right, but I have a feeling the MoS may have named some though. Apparently that Skomer site is somewhat out-of-date now, as a friend of mine who has now left Wikipedia knows the site-author and he no-longer has access to the site so he's unable to update the site with corrected information that has since been declassified. As-is, it contains a number of errors apparently. BTW, in my 'travels' searching for that plans-link I found this: [3] which may interest you. Ian Dunster 11:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Without anything apart from a "hunch", I think that rockets are the exception to the case here. there's a great list of rockets here; Skomer.u-net.com The liquid-fuelled rocket "engines" seem to use "S" names; Armstrong Siddeley Snarler, AS Spartan, AS Stentor, de Havilland Scorpion (ex-Napier), dH Spectre, dH Sprite. Bristol Siddeley produced a (non-military) series named Alpha through Gamma. The solid-fuelled motors seem to be using either dogs or birds. Because this system "seems" to hold across all manufacturers and most rockets that at least reached testing, I was presuming there had to be a higher authority on naming, i.e the MoS. Emoscopes Talk 17:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I have always found the naming schemes most useful for remembering the originators of engine designs, especially when they get passed-on to other manufacturers. Once you know them then it's easy to remember that, for instance, the Sapphire was originally a Metrovick engine!, so the Sea Slug engine/motor may possibly originally have been an Armstrong Siddeley design. Ian Dunster 16:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- See Armstrong Siddeley Puma —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.72.178 (talk) 20:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)