Talk:Army Air Corps (United Kingdom)

Sub-articles

I'm really not convinced that there is a huge amount of value in all the vairous sub-articles being created for individual units, until such time as they have enough material to be more than a stub. I'd suggest that independent flights and squadrons could be consolidated together in one.ALR 12:56, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Page rename

It has bothered me for a long time that this article was at Army Air Corps, when there is at least one other air arm which has used that name which is probably more notable internationally, the United States Army Air Corps of 1926-1942. In addition, the current US Army aviation assets are often called the "Army Air Corps", and there was a force dringing the Philippine Commenwealth that used the name too. As such, I have decided to Be Bold, and convert the plain title Army Air Corps to a disambiguation page. The title I have chosen for this page, British Army Air Corps, may not bes the best one, but it was all I could think of at the time. The Commonscat page is it "Category:Army Air Corps (UK)", so Army Air Corps (UK) would be a possible alternative. Until it's decided if this title will be the permanent one or not, I have only changed a few redirects. I'll try to finish that up in a few days if no has objected to the move , or if an alternate title has been chosen. Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 23:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

How about we go for the standard UK disambiguator - thus ? Buckshot06 (talk) 22:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Works for me. I'm just surprised it went this long without comment tho. That's unusual for a UK-related topic - usually doesn't take two hours! - BillCJ (talk) 23:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Should I just go ahead and move the page, or do you think we need to wait for further comments? Buckshot06 (talk) 23:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Just go ahead. Two months without comment on the first move shows that move wasn't controversial, so I doubt anyone will contest this one. Of course, it might also mean British Army Air Corps was acceptable to everyone who saw it - without any comment, we can't tell. I was bold in moving it in the first place, so I can hardly argue against it this time (and I'm not). - BillCJ (talk) 23:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Buckshot; if the title is a problem (and I am inclined to think that it is, the standard disambiguator is Army Air Corps (United Kingdom). Obscurasky (talk) 21:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Uniform

Could someone please write a section on the uniforms used by the AAC? Obscurasky (talk) 21:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Organisation

The assertion that the RAF AOP Sqns were part of the WW2 AAC needs a reference. I actually think its wrong, and doesn't make logical sense, particularly as they were under an RAF formation as RAF sqns.

Second the claim that the first 12 RAF sqns included 2 RCAF, this is a popular claim but doesn't stand up to close examination and is incorrect (more attention to detail chaps). 657 and 660 were assigned to 1 and 2 Cdn Corps (1st Cdn was in Italy until early 1945 before moving to NW Europe). These sqns may have had Cdns in them but they were RAF sqns. However, in early 1945 the RCAF did form 3 AOP Sqns, 664 (OCs Maj DR Ely, DW Blyth), 665 (OCs Maj DR Ely, NW Reilander), and 666 (DR Ely, AB Stewart), all formed in Andover UK. Source: Gunners of Canada, Vol 2 1019-1967, GWL Nicholson (pgs 433, 646 and others). It appears that only 664 and 665 made it to NW Europe before the end of the war. 664 replaced 660 Sqn in 2 Cdn Corps, 665 had flts assigned to 1 Pol Armd Div, 17 AGRA and NL District (1 Cdn Corps).

Of course this suggests there may have been a 663 somewhere!Nfe (talk) 03:32, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Photographs

This article lacks a photograph of a Gazelle AH.1 in service with the AAC. It means that the Aircraft part of The AAC today section is incomplete. Will someone add one? I have noticed that there is one at the Aérospatiale Gazelle article but, it is not current. There is also one at the List of active United Kingdom military aircraft article but, it is already used in two articles. There is an opportunity for someone to add a new photograph of an AAC Gazelle, to this article. What do others think? Dreddmoto (talk) 16:01, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

This is quite a nice photo. Failing that, I might have to dig through my old negative files. --Bye for now (PTT) 16:26, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

It is. Is it a helicopter from 29 (BATUS) Flight AAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/29_(BATUS)_Flight_AAC ? If so, it could be added to that article. It also shows an unusual colour scheme for AAC aircraft. Maybe this article should have a photograph of a Gazelle in the standard, corps colour scheme of olive green and pale grey? Like the image of the Westland Lynx AH7? Dreddmoto (talk) 14:50, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it's from Suffield, Alberta. As for colours, in the 70s/80s they were mostly black and green of course --Bye for now (PTT) 15:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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contested image of helicopter

This [1] edit has been made at least ten times in the last three months or so by what appear to be the same editor using multiple IPs (user:86.186.58.220, user:217.42.217.151, user:86.165.119.144 ) and the CU blocked user:Sadiedens. Aside from the obvious grammar error, the image File:ZZ405 (8071796088).jpg just does not seem to be as good an image as the original File:AgustaWestland AW-159 Lynx Wildcat.jpg, in which it is easier to see details. Multiple editors have undone this edit (me, user:Dormskirk, user:Fnlayson, user:BilCat). Does anyone want to argue for keeping the new image? Meters (talk) 21:58, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

The sock case is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/MFIreland, and the above IPs are from the same ISP and geolocation as previously reported socks. Meters (talk) 22:07, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

The image of ZZ400 is the prototype that belongs to Agusta Westland and doesnt have the same colour scheme as the in-service ones. So really any other image even ZZ405 would be better and representive of an actual Army helicopter. MilborneOne (talk) 22:41, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

@MilborneOne: Concur it's a poor image. Time for a lengthy semi-protection? This sock farm has been pretty persistent on other articles without it. - BilCat (talk) 00:15, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Orbats

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which is intended to be written in prose (see WP:PROSE). This article, and some others, are becoming a string of orbats. This one now has orbats for the cold war, 2007, current and future. I suggest that this needs rationalising in some way. Dormskirk (talk) 09:51, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

I agree. Should we limit to significant periods, ie, end of Cold War (~1989) and present day? Sammartinlai (talk) 12:22, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that makes sense to me. Dormskirk (talk) 14:30, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

I'll shift it here

Structure circa 2007

• Regular Regiments
  • 1 Regiment Army Air Corps - Princess Royal Barracks
    • Headquarters Squadron
    • No. 652 Squadron
    • No. 661 Squadron
    • Regimental Workshop
  • 3 Regiment Army Air Corps
  • 4 Regiment Army Air Corps - Wattisham
    • Headquarters Squadron
    • No. 654 Squadron
    • No. 656 Squadron
    • No. 664 Squadron
    • Regimental Workshop
  • 5 Regiment Army Air Corps - Aldergrove
    • Headquarters Squadron
    • No. 655 Squadron (V)
    • No. 665 Squadron
    • No.1 Flight
    • Regimental Workshop
  • 9 Regiment Army Air Corps - Dishforth Airfield
    • Headquarters Squadron
    • No. 659 Squadron
    • No. 669 Squadron
    • No. 672 Squadron
    • Regimental Workshop
• Reserve / Training Regiments
  • 2 (Training) Regiment Army Air Corps - Middle Wallop
    • Headquarters Squadron
    • No. 668 Squadron
    • No. 670 Squadron
    • No. 671 Squadron
    • No. 673 Squadron
    • No. 676 Squadron
  • 6 Regiment Army Air Corps - Bury St Edmunds
    • Headquarters Squadron
    • No. 667 Squadron
  • 7 Regiment Army Air Corps -
    • No. 658 Squadron
    • No. 660 Squadron
    • No. 3 Flight
    • No. 6 Flight
• Separate Squadrons and Flights
  • No. 7 Flight Army Air Corps
  • No. 8 Flight Army Air Corps
  • No. 12 Flight Army Air Corps
  • No. 25 Flight Army Air Corps
  • No. 29 (BATUS) Flight Army Air Corps - British Army Training Unit Suffield

Sammartinlai (talk) 14:40, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

References

Excess

Regiments

• 1 Regiment Wildcat
  • 652 Squadron
  • 659 Squadron (until August 1947 No. 659 Squadron RAF)
  • 661 Squadron
• 2 (Training) Regiment
  • 668 (Training) Squadron (until November 1945 No. 668 Squadron RAF)
  • 676 Squadron
• 3 Regiment (Joint Helicopter Command) Apache
  • 653 Squadron is to be an Operational Training Squadron from 2015.
  • 662 Squadron
  • 663 Squadron
• 4 Regiment (Joint Helicopter Command) Apache
  • 656 Squadron
  • 664 Squadron
• 5 Regiment Gazelle
  • 665 Squadron (until July 1945 No. 665 Squadron RCAF)
  • 29 (BATUS) Flight (Alberta, Canada)
• 6 Regiment is the Army Reserve component of the AAC
  • 675 (The Rifles) Squadron
  • 677 (Suffolk and Norfolk Yeomanry) Squadron
  • 678 (The Rifles) Squadron
  • 679 (The Duke of Connaught's) Squadron
• 7 (Training) Regiment
  • 670 (Training) Squadron (until July 1946 No. 670 Squadron RAF)
  • 671 (Training) Squadron (until July 1946 No. 671 Squadron RAF)
  • 25 Flight (BATUK), Kenya

BlueD954 (talk) 03:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

References