Talk:Arthur III, Duke of Brittany

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As 'Constable de Richemont' he was effectively the reformer and founder of the French army that was to win the Hundred Years War and wage aggressive war in Europe for the next two centuries. I think this article requires serious attention from a military expert —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.79.22.250 (talk) 22:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

assessment

needs citations, clarification of inheritance, a map would be good, showing where the territories were that he inherited. why is he notable would also be good. Not just that he was an earl, or a duke, or that he had access to the king, but why should we care about him? assessor above suggested his importance -- reformer of the French army, etc., but this definitely needs some attention.--Auntieruth55 (talk) 21:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Jeanne II d'Albret

@Parsedan and Fram: it was brought to my attention that the article Jeanne II d'Albret was redirected here because of notability issues. I'm not an expert on notability guidelines, but I am a staunch believer in common courtesy and giving guidance and advice wherever possible. The article was sourced, written well, and presented no immediate issues which demanded rapid removal. Thus, as is the case with all deletion nominations, there should be the opportunity for discussion and engagement on whether or not to remove the article, regardless of its apparent notability one way or the other. At the bare minimum, the author should be alerted as to why it was deleted and given the chance to say their piece. So, to that end, I figured there should be some discussion here about the issue. Beyond that I defer to wiser minds, but I wanted to get the ball rolling. Thanks, Fritzmann (message me) 03:36, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

There was no claim of notability. Are you expressing compassion about the unreasonable feelings of a fellow editor or are you complaining that the editor deserved a condemnation on their talk page rather than an edit summary? Draft space and sandboxes exist for a reason. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Chris troutman and Fritzmann2002: Hello. I was just surprised at the redirection without warning. Just to say here that the article was written because I found a red link on WIR, that it already exists in French, that it is listed on Wikidata with the number Q1633831. I wrote it with all the sources found on the WP library I have access to. I also recreated a family tree from the same article in Italian. Finally I never write directly online but always beforehand on my sandbox page. Nevertheless, I would stick to the WP decisions. Thank you.--Parsedan (talk) 07:43, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Each Wikipedia version has their own rules, so what is acceptable in one language may not be acceptable on another one (in this case, I mean "acceptable" as a stand-alone article based on notability: there was no other issue with it). As for Wikidata, they have almost no rules for inclusion, having a Wikidata entry is basically meaningless. Fram (talk) 08:43, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Parsedan: You are way too experienced to be unaware of WP:N. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:11, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Chris troutman: Hello. I agree with your and @Fram:'s interpretation. No problem for me. Thank you. And thanks to @Fritzmann2002:.--Parsedan (talk) 17:07, 10 March 2022 (UTC)