Talk:Ascendancy

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Cryptic in topic Moral ascendancy

Moral ascendancy

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An editor is repeatedly adding the following:

  • moral ascendancy is commonly used as a synonym for "moral high ground", but in law it can refer to a position of authority that can be abused, usually an aggravating circumstance in cases of sexual coercion.

The rationale for adding it is that it is "useful information", specifically about the "legal term", but it is not useful, for several reasons. First, no article on Wikipedia uses the expression "moral ascendency" except a few articles on military history. Second, nobody searching for "moral high ground" or "abuse of a position of authority in cases of sexual coercion" would type in "ascendency". Third, although it may be used in law cases, it doesn't seem to me to be all that commonly used, or to be a "legal term" as such. Finally, as I pointed out when I reverted here, the Sexual coercion article is about a practice in animals, not people. It is therefore not a suitable entry in this dab page, and although the editor may think it provides "useful information", it does not. Scolaire (talk) 07:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

You sound very wise and knowing and authoritative on how people surf wp according to you. But how do you think I got here? By typing in 'ascendancy' (note correct spelling) looking to see the explanation of "moral ascendancy". Found there is none here. Tried to rectify that. Immediately met vehement opposition to this information, which could potentially explain why wp is not only weak in this area but actually abetting English speakers' weakness in understanding law. 172.56.23.156 (talk) 12:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
What makes it a legal term is not just that it is used in law cases, but used in the actual laws drafted around the world. 172.56.23.156 (talk) 12:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
You haven't even read what I said (twice) about the Sexual coercion article. This revert (with the usual confrontational edit summary, but with an obscenity thrown in this time) means that we again have a link to an article that says, "Sexual coercion in animals is the use of violence, threats, harassment, and other tactics by males to help them forcefully copulate." Very useful, I'm sure. The entry is generally a mess, for the reasons I have already stated. If the "legal term" is so significant, you can go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation and create an article on it. That article can then be linked from this page. Until then, the "legal term" doesn't belong, nor any of the rest. Scolaire (talk) 15:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

This is a classic partial title match. If you wanted to find an explanation of "moral ascendancy", you should have looked at moral ascendancy. The only way it would belong here would be if "ascendancy" by itself was used in this sense, and I can find no evidence for that. —Cryptic 17:18, 24 August 2015 (UTC)Reply