Talk:Ashikaga Yoshiteru

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It is said that when Hisahide laid siege to Yoshiteru's residence, he came out and planted several swords on the ground, and started killing. When a sword broke he simply picks up another one and continued... can anyone verify this?--Chinese renegade 07:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

That whole section smacks of fiction, and I also question the book by Isaac Titsingh which is cited, that is a book written by a foreigner over 200 years ago. That source looks completely unreliable when there are plenty of Japanese or modern books/articles of a far more scholarly nature that could be used. I nominate we remove it, and remove the questionable material until we can come up with something more reliable. Sgtkabuki (talk) 17:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Matsui Sadonokami and Oodate Iwachiyomaru

The following was temporarily removed from the text because it lacks the verifiable support of an in-line citation. Without more, this could be merely spurious:

• Yoshiteru, like other shoguns of the Muromachi period, practiced the tradition of shudo. He took a number of wakashu, among whom were Matsui Sadonokami and the young Oodate Iwachiyomaru. Sadonokami remained as the Shogun's lover until he reached adulthood, when he entered the service of the Hosokawa family, where his descendants can be found to the present day.
• Together with him died his wakashu, Odachidono, age thirteen, who committed seppuku upon the death of his lord. The event was recorded by the Jesuit Father Luis Frois. Yoshiteru's mother is recorded to have died on the same day.

These bare statements, standing alone, are inadequate without more -- without some sort of better developed context and possible internal links to other articles in Wikipedia ...? --Tenmei (talk) 02:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

• Yoshiteru practiced kenjutsu and had Kamiizumi Nobutsuna and Tsukahara Bokuden teach him the art of using the katana, and became a master of it. Bringing out over a dozen katana given to him by various daimyo, Yoshiteru was said to have killed a large number of enemy troops on his own, throwing aside the priceless katana that broke. - this is also uncited and questionable, so I've moved it here until we can verify. Sgtkabuki (talk) 17:36, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

MILHIST B-class checklist

This article does have some grammatical issues, and the timeline in the middle needs to be worked into prose. Another major issue is it lacks an infobox, the code for which can be found here: {{Infobox Military Person}}. Sourcing is somewhat ok, but it needs to be improved before this article can pass B-class criteria. Parsecboy (talk) 20:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)