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A more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah” (original version of current “Asiatic Cheetah” article on Wikipedia)

A more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah”, what is being done for its conservation and the importance of modern technologies like cloning in wildlife conservation today.

The article/page on "Asiatic Cheetah" on Wikipedia was originally written by me but has since been re-written to suite a general audience. You may still be able to pull up the detailed original version I wrote from the "History" button on top of "Asiatic Cheetah" page: Detailed original Version I wrote (on History page): 00:50, 13 September 2006 Atulsnischal (Talk | contribs) or CLICK LINK for a A more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah”: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asiatic_Cheetah&oldid=75407443; Alternatively click on the following:

It gives a more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah”, what is being done for its conservation and the importance of modern technologies like cloning in wildlife conservation today.

Atulsnischal 06:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


LETS HELP SPREAD AWARENESS ABOUT THIS ALMOST EXTINCT SUBSPECIES: THE "ASIATIC CHEETAH"

There are only 50 to 60 of Asiatic Cheetahs left in the world all in Iran and they are fast walking towards their extinction, but there is hardly any awareness about the existance of this subspecie amongst the general public who can make a difference and protect them. Mostly everybody thinks that the Cheetah is an African Animal. I want to spread awareness about this almost extinct subspecie of "Asiatic Cheetah" and hope some body will notice it here on this "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" website and get interested in working for its consrvation or write about it in media. We need to create as much awareness as possible for our littleknown wildlife wonders which are being forced into their extinction.

Thanking you

Original author of article/page on "Asiatic Cheetah" on wikipedia

Atul Singh Nischal atulsinghnischal@yahoo.com; Life-member of Bombay Natural History Society (BNHS): http://www.bnhs.org/; Life-subscriber of WWF-India: http://www.wwfindia.org/;

Please Note:

  • The article/page on "Asiatic Cheetah" on Wikipedia was originally written by me but has since been re-written to suite a general audience. You may still be able to pull up the detailed original version I wrote from the "History" button on top of "Asiatic Cheetah" page:

Detailed original Version I wrote (on History page): 00:50, 13 September 2006 Atulsnischal (Talk | contribs) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asiatic_Cheetah&oldid=75407443

  • It gives a more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah”, what is being done for its conservation and the importance of modern technologies like cloning in wildlife conservation today.

Atulsnischal 17:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


Latest comment: 17 years ago3 comments1 person in discussion
  • Almost Extinct only 50 or 60 are alive today in IRAN, and India desperately wants to clone some Asiatic Cheetahs for reintroduction in INDIA from where they went extinct about half a cenctuary ago. But controversy still dogs the Indian effort to clone the Asiatic Cheetah with Irans help. And as some sort of partnership may develop between Iran and India in the future to co-operate in reintroducing both Asiatic Lions & Cheetahs to eachothers countries it makes sense to make ourselves aware about the Asiatic Cheetah. "Call for the Conservation of Asiatic Cheetah": http://cheetah.irandoe.org/Call%20for%20CACP/index.htm


  • Conservation of Asiatic Cheetah Project (CACP)

Official Government of Iran Website: The joint DoE & UNDP/GEF project on the Conservation of Asiatic Cheetah (CAC) has been running since September 2001 in collaboration with Wild Conservation Society (WCS), Cheetah Conservation Fund (CCF), and International Union of Conservation of Nature (IUCN). http://cheetah.irandoe.org/about/index.html http://cheetah.irandoe.org/index.html PLEASE NOTE: This website is down frequently hence access it another day if it refuses to come up.


  • Iranian Cheetah Society is a NGO (about Iranian / Indian / Asiatic Cheetah)

Iranian Cheetah Society (ICS) is an Iranian, independent, non-profit NGO established in Aug 2001 and works to save the last remains of the Asiatic cheetah, Acinonyx jubatus venaticus just living in Iran, so more appropriate to be called the Iranian cheetah. http://www.iraniancheetah.org/


  • Yahoo Group of IranianCheetahSociety(ICS)

Iranian Cheetah Society (ICS) is an Iranian, independent, non-profit NGO established in Aug 2001 and works to save the last remains of the Asiatic cheetah, Acinonyx jubatus venaticus just living in Iran, so more appropriate to be called the Iranian cheetah. For further information please refer to: www.iraniancheetah.org

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IraniancheetahSociety/


  • Asiatic Cheetah in India Book: "The end of a trail, Cheetah in India", by Divyabhanusinh

About this title: This is a pictorial history of the cheetah in India from the pre-historic period to the present. It provides a comprehensive account of the animal's interaction with man through the ages, reconstructing the life of the cheetah in captivity and its use by Indian royalty as an aid to hunting. Divyabhanusinh examines anew the process of the Indian cheetah's decline in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, charting its path to extinction and analysing the causes of its disappearance. In this impression, the 'Epilogue 2001' provides a complete update on the information in the book, including detailed new findings on the evolution of cheetahs from Africa and Asia. It also gives fresh evidence about the sadly declining numbers of cheetah in Iran, and the existence, albeit not very optimistic, of the animal in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The epilogue also documents cases of the killing of the cheetah for rewards, a practice performed in British India, leading to its extermination. Finally, the author proposes a reintroduction of the cheetah in a select part of India. But if the cheetah is to survive at all on the Indian subcontinent, it will require the unconditional support of the governments of India, Iran, and Pakistan. The author mines a wide range of sources -- from prehistoric cave paintings, Sanskrit, Classical Greek and Roman literature to Mughal miniature paintings, rare photographs, shikar literature of the British Raj, and interviews. Containing several illustrated book is an indispensable reference work and has led to a renewed interest in the cheetah's reintroduction in India. On Trapping, Training, Treatment of and Hunting with Cheetahs; Read Chapter 7 from above book from the CAT website: http://www.felidae.org/LIBRARY/divyabhanusinh.pdf http://www.felidae.org/PROJECTS/Asiatic_Cheetah/divyatitl/divyatitl.html


  • On Trapping, Training, Treatment of and Hunting with Cheetahs (Asiatic Cheetahs in India):

Read Chapter 7 from the Book: "The end of a trail, Cheetah in India", by Divyabhanusinh : On Trapping, Training, Treatment of and Hunting with Cheetahs: http://www.felidae.org/LIBRARY/divyabhanusinh.pdf


  • CAT: Asiatic Cheetah Status Surveys

1 - The Asiatic cheetah is a critically endangered subspecies once found throughout Southwest Asia and into India, and now restricted to a few locations in Iran and perhaps Pakistan and Afghanistan. In Iran, biologists have estimated that perhaps as few as 50 cheetah remain. The Cat Specialist Group is developing a research and conservation program in cooperation with Iran's Department of Environment. The Iranian Cheetah Society's website features current news about the efforts to save this rarest of the big cats. 2 - "The environmental limitations and future of the Asiatic cheetah in Iran": http://www.felidae.org/PROJECTS/Asiatic_Cheetah/asadi1997/asadi1997.htm http://www.felidae.org/PROJECTS/Asiatic_Cheetah/asiatic_cheetah.htm


  • Wild About Cats Website Page: "Marita" a female captive "Asiatic Cheetah"

This is Marita. She was saved as a cub after her mother was killed by livestock herders. We are sorry to say that the beloved Marita has passed on at 11pm on December 23, 2003, of respiratory failure. She had two veterinarians and Hormoz Asadi with her. On a good note, she lived a full 9-1/2 years, which is a reasonably full lifespan in captivity. There is no longer a captive Asiatic cheetah, however, wild cheetahs have been spotted in Iran and are currently being studied. Wild About Cats Website: http://www.wildaboutcats.org/index.htm

http://www.wildaboutcats.org/asiatic.htm


  • IRAN-ZOO

Remember to also look for "Asiatic Cheetah" & "Asiatic Lion" Info at the Iran Zoo website. - IRAN-ZOO is an independent web.site with a main purpose for bringing the situation of the Iranian animals (like pets, domestic or wildlife) to the awareness of the people around the world. As you will see in this site many wild animals in Iran now extinct and many others are in the danger of extinction. We hope that our work will help them some how. Right now we are so far from Iran and it is so hard for us to make this dream to come true.We get only a little help from Iran and most of the information come to us from internet, books or some friends from outside of the country.We do not ask for money. All we need is more information, news and photos. If this efforts say you something, we believe that you can help us too. E-mail: iranzoo@yahoo.com, Persian (Asiatic) Lion - Page, (Panthera Leo Persica), Shir (in Persian): http://iranzoo.tripod.com/lion/lion.html/, Asiatic Lions have been extinct in Iran since 1942 http://www.iranzoo.cjb.net/



“The genetic information needed in the future to reproduce endangered animal species can be preserved in genebanks, which consist of cryogenic facilities used to store living sperm, eggs, or embryos. The Zoological Society of San Diego has established a "frozen zoo" to store such samples from more than 355 species, including mammals, reptiles, and birds.”

“…. However, when the extinction of a species is imminent, ex-situ conservation becomes the only option left to humanity. It is simply better to preserve a species in part than to let it die out completely.”


The Convention on Biological Diversity: http://www.biodiv.org/default.shtml


A more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah”, what is being done for its conservation and the importance of modern technologies like cloning in wildlife conservation today.

The article/page on "Asiatic Cheetah" on Wikipedia was originally written by me but has since been re-written to suite a general audience. You may still be able to pull up the detailed original version I wrote from the "History" button on top of "Asiatic Cheetah" page: Detailed original Version I wrote (on History page): 00:50, 13 September 2006 Atulsnischal (Talk | contribs) or CLICK LINK for a A more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah”: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asiatic_Cheetah&oldid=75407443; Alternatively click on the following: A more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah” (original version of current “Asiatic Cheetah” article on Wikipedia)

It gives a more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah”, what is being done for its conservation and the importance of modern technologies like cloning in wildlife conservation today.

Atulsnischal 06:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


Please note anybody can write any article on Wikipedia and anybody can edit any article, hence my article has been re-written since too to serve a general audience. My detailed article may still be available on the Wikipedia website as an earlier version of the "Asiatic Cheetah" article, you can also find it by reaching the Asiatic Cheetah page on Wikipedia and pressing the "history" button on top of the page, please go to the latest edit by me, username "Atulsnischal" and "click on the date next to the latest entry of my name" if it is still archived it will comeup. The original version that I wrote and submitted and the one I am mentioning here is version number: 00:50, 13 September 2006 Atulsnischal; of the Asiatic Cheetah Article/Page on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asiatic_Cheetah&oldid=75407443 Atulsnischal 03:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


"Diet of ASIATIC CHEETAH":

Info on Diet of Asiatic Cheetah and I have mentioned the quoted references:

(1 see below) Diet: In Iran Asiatic Cheetah's diet consists mainly of Jebeer gazelle, Goitered Gazelle, wild sheep, wild goat, and cape hare.

(2 see below) The Asiatic cheetah’s range is restricted to the Central Iranian Plateau, with an estimated population of 60 adult cheetahs remaining. The main threat to the Asiatic cheetah is loss of their primary prey species, gebeer gazelle (Gazella dorcas), goitered gazelle (Gazella subgothrosa), urial sheep (Ovis orientalis) and wild goat (Capra aegagrus), due to poaching and grazing competition with domestic livestock. Habitat loss from mining development and poaching of Asiatic Cheetahs also threaten their populations in Iran. "Wildlife Conservation Society (WCS)" and the "Department of Enavironment , Iran (DoE)" hope to begin collaring Asiatic Cheetahs in the fall of 2006.

Reference on Diet:

(1): See bottom of this page for above Diet info quoted: http://cheetah.irandoe.org/asiatic/index.html

(2): See bottom of this page for above Diet info quoted: http://savingwildplaces.com/swp-home/swp-explorationandsurvey/239531

Atulsnischal 08:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

See also

Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Atulsnischal 12:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

An appeal to all Naturelovers & Wildlifers and specially to those from Iran & India to spread the awareness, love & respect for all species and help us protect the Asiatic Cheetah & Asiatic Lion from Extinction

Latest comment: 18 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This Asiatic Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus venaticus) Page has been originally created by ATUL SINGH NISCHAL - atulsinghnischal@yahoo.com, I am a Life-member of Bombay Natural History Society (BNHS): http://www.bnhs.org/ and a Life-subscriber of WWF-India: http://www.wwfindia.org/.

I am an "Asiatic Cheetah" and "Asiatic Lion" fan originally from India, naturelovers & wildlifers in my country and in Iran love both these species and we used to have plenty of them till a few hundred years back in both India and Iran. Today all the Asiatic Cheetah are extinct all over Asia and also extinct in India now, just the last 50 to 60 are said to be remain in Iran.

The same fate befell the "Asiatic Lion" all over Europe and Asia they were exterminated by man. Iran also lost them eventually in 1942. From the handful that survived in India in 1900 in a single forest, a population of about 300 odd has been conserved and built up. It is felt now that all the Asiatic Lion are cramped together in a single Indian forest of Gir which is hopelessly overpopulated and Lions have started to spill out to unprotected adjoining areas coming in regular conflict with man with many of them being killed/poisened regularly. Since all the Asiatic Lions of the world are cramped together in the Gir region of the Indian State of Gujarat and face complete extinction because of an epidemic or natural calamity that may strike, the Government of India has made arrangements to re-introduce some to Kuno-Palpur Sanctuary in the neghbouring State of Madhya Pradesh in India. Even though the Asiatic Lion is on the official seal of India and all Indians are proud of them, unfortunately the State Government of Gujarat and some people in Gujarat feel that Asiatic Lion are state property and are opposing the re-introduction of some wild Lions to Kuno-Palpur Sanctuary in the neighboring State of Madhya Pradesh in India. For the time being it looks like that Gujarat wants to keep its monopoly on tourism revenue generated by the Asiatic Lions.

Naturelovers sincerely hope that both "Asiatic Cheetah" and "Asiatic Lion" can be pulled from the brink of extinction and eventually be re-introduced back to their original remaining habitats all over Asia. Maybe it may take a few centauries but presently Iran and India can co-operate on bringing the "Asiatic Cheetah" and "Asiatic Lion" back to their countries. Iran should help India in re-introducing the "Asiatic Cheetah", even though it may have to be through "Cloning" if needed, and India should help Iran to re-introduce the "Asiatic Lion" to their country.

Long live the "Asiatic Cheetah" and "Asiatic Lion" who had shared, shoulder to shoulder, much of the same habitat ranging from North Africa to India...........

Thanking you

Original author of article/page on "Asiatic Cheetah" on wikipedia

Atul Singh Nischal atulsinghnischal@yahoo.com; Life-member of Bombay Natural History Society (BNHS): http://www.bnhs.org/; Life-subscriber of WWF-India: http://www.wwfindia.org/;

Please Note:

  • The article/page on "Asiatic Cheetah" on Wikipedia was originally written by me but has since been re-written to suite a general audience. You may still be able to pull up the detailed original version I wrote from the "History" button on top of "Asiatic Cheetah" page:

Detailed original Version I wrote (on History page): 00:50, 13 September 2006 Atulsnischal (Talk | contribs) or CLICK LINK for a A more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah”: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asiatic_Cheetah&oldid=75407443

It gives a more detailed account of the critically endangered “Asiatic Cheetah”, what is being done for its conservation and the importance of modern technologies like cloning in wildlife conservation today.

Atulsnischal 17:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Indian Wildlife photos @ “INDIA NATURE WATCH” including Asiatic Lions

Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

INDIA NATURE WATCH (INW) - A non-commercial website that focuses on sharing the joy that nature has on offer. We welcome all nature lovers to join us in sharing that joy. The INW website is intended to serve as an online resource for nature lovers of all skill levels from beginners to professionals. Our focus area is India. We hope the content generated here will help showcase the work of nature photographers in India to the world, as well as help initiate the uninitiated to the wonders of nature. Currently we have a "Image Gallery Section" where a member can showcase an image and a "Discussion Forum" where various topics can be discussed. While we continue to strive to improve features on INW, We take great pride in the professional, non-commercial environment we provide for all visitors. Please do peruse our "terms of use" (http://www.indianaturewatch.net/terms.php ).

(ATUL’s NOTE: Please note that not so long ago wild Asiatic Lions ranged over most of the “Indian sub-continent”, where they came in contact with and their paths regularly crisscrossed with most of our wildlife including Tigers. Unfortunately the last surviving 300 or so wild Asiatic Lions left today in the whole world are only found in the Gir forest area of Indian state of Gujarat where the Tiger has been hunted to extinction for quite some time now. In fact the Tiger is entirely missing from Gujatat’s forests where they may someday again be reintroduced as suitable habitat is said to exist. Meantime there are plans to re-introduce 2-3 prides of wild Asiatic Lions to Kuno-Palpur Wildlife Sanctuary in the neighboring Indian state of Madhya Pradesh. Asiatic Lions and the Asiatic Cheetah shared most of the same habitat in India and southwest Asia, but alas the Indian/Asiatic Cheetah is now extinct in India, the very last 50 or 60 fight their final extinction in nearby Iran. Iran had lost all its Asiatic Lions to senseless hunting by 1942 & their Tigers had met the same fate too.)

INDIA NATURE WATCH: http://www.indianaturewatch.net/index.php

Atulsnischal 23:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


Only big cat that can be tamed?

Latest comment: 18 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

How about all those lions and tigers who work in circuses? I thought all felines can be tamed if they get human contact early enough in their lives. Durova 04:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

There are lions that have been raised by humans, the same goes for all big cats, but these are still dangerous and even more so when they grow up. The big cats will still possess behviour which is impossible to tame regardelss of the human contact they recieve. Unfortunately, other big cats raised by humans are unable to be controlled by their owners when they becomes adults and cannot be released into the wild since they did not grow up there and do not have the necessary survival skills. Often, these ones are put down. Hope that helps. Ben (talk) 20:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion


Atulsnischal 21:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Archive of "Talk:Asiatic Cheetah" discussion page

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Only big cat that can be tamed?

Latest comment: 18 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

How about all those lions and tigers who work in circuses? I thought all felines can be tamed if they get human contact early enough in their lives. Durova 04:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

There are lions that have been raised by humans, the same goes for all big cats, but these are still dangerous and even more so when they grow up. The big cats will still possess behviour which is impossible to tame regardelss of the human contact they recieve. Unfortunately, other big cats raised by humans are unable to be controlled by their owners when they becomes adults and cannot be released into the wild since they did not grow up there and do not have the necessary survival skills. Often, these ones are put down. Hope that helps. Ben (talk) 20:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Latest comment: 17 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

I noted that the articles you have been working on have far too many external links. There should be a minimal number of "important sites". If there are articles etc. relevant to the article then they can be referenced in the text as notes. A sea of external links is practically useless since the important ones are diluted. David D. (Talk) 21:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi David the Extra "External Links" in the Wildlife articles I have been working on and the Extra External links you have been removing

Hi David

First of all let me thanks you for helping with the wildlife articles I have been working on

Asiatic Lion, Kuno Wildlife Sanctuary, Asiatic Lion Reintroduction Project, etc.

I know you have been removing all the external links I had added in all these and other articles, but you see I am not an experienced writer on Wikipedia, all the external links that I added are actually what I read before writing of editing the article,

  • Hence they should have been included in the "References" section that I didnt make, and I didnt add a "Further Reading" section, wher all the links should have been added.

If you now see the inbreeding section in Asitic Lions, references have been correctly added as an inset within the article, like you were also suggesting, ..... you might want to see how that section was written after pressing edit, also see what appears after pressing edit on "Cited References", if done prperly the "Wikipedia software" automatically tabulates references under the "Cited References" heading, please see when you get time.

All external links will have to be added in "References" section and under "Further reding" sections which were missing, my mistake.... I have been not getting much time to comtribute on wikipedia.

Thanks again

Atulsnischal 06:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Atulsnischal, sounds like you are getting the right idea. I'll help out with formatting as I see these come up on my watchlist. David D. (Talk) 04:34, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Original references

Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

if they are used for the writing of the article then cite them in the approppriate place with the inline ref. David D. (Talk) 04:30, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Asiatic Cheetah

Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

it was use for hunt

his names in arabic Al-Fahd Al-Arabi and Fahd Sayyad which mean Cheetah hunter bedouin use this animal for hunt

The bedouin lived in the past with the maximum conditions and The urgent need to live >> they training Cheetahs on hunt

Picture of man from Shammar tribe with Asiatic Cheetah ( Fahd Sayyad) in 1925 in Arabian Peninsula

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9127/49324324bo9.jpg


but this animal extinction Arabian Peninsula from 50 years now —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.141.185 (talk) 01:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

new pic

Latest comment: 17 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

add this pic to the article

File:Fahd.jpg

The picture was taken in 1925 of man from Shammar tribe with Asiatic Cheetah ( Fahd Sayyad or Fahd Alrabi)..bedouin use this animal for hunt. --Hisham ibn Oamr Alharbi 11:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Done. Where did you find it? Funkynusayri 00:38, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Undone. The image is not appropriate as the taxobox image. In addition, it looks like a dead cheetah, not one used as a hunting companion. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

bedouin use this animal for hunt and the Most Famous who use animals to hunt was the Abbasid Caliph Abu Abbas As-Saffah

this animal was Spread in the past in the Arab region, Iran, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Central Asia

It was seen for the last time in 1959 in the Negev Desert

In Jordan has been killed with another small female in the year 1962

In Egypt, has been seeing another 2 Asiatic Cheetah in the Sinai desert in 1946

In Yemen, was seen for the last time in 1963

In Kuwait has been another las of him in 1949

In Iraq, it was another recording in 1947/1948 when Asiatic Cheetah collided with a car and killed in the Syrian desert, in western Iraq

In the north of the Saudi oil workers killed 26 Asiatic Cheetah in 1950, in Saudi Arabia the last Cheetas Have been killed near Ha'il in 1973-1977.

In Oman in Difar Has been killed last one in 1977--Hisham ibn Oamr Alharbi 03:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:STALKING Comment also copied here from discussion pages Genetic pollution and Genetic Erosion

Latest comment: 15 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

How can you expect to not have problems with the POV section that you have cut and pasted into multiple articles? At present you have refused every opportunity to discuss this matter and just revert my edits accusing me of stalking. This is hopeful on your part, and you seem to think that if you say it enough it will become true. If you keep refusing to dicuss this issue i will remove that section from every article you have placed it. It reads like a political scree and is not neutral enough for wikipedia. You need to discuss how this section can be made more neutral, an opportunity that hs been present to you on at least two different talk pages. I am within my rights to remove this section if you choose to ignore all discussion. David D. (Talk) 04:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I have already made it neutral enough, i spent days on it, your POV accusation is based on previous POV comments on Genetic pollution discussion page which came when I started the article and wrote two lines on it, i spent a week on it afterwards finding and using references and nuteral enough language, it states the truth. Definitely you have stalked me to my other articles over the months so there you go, I am busy now with other stuff in life. Kindly dont stalk me and bother me and do some constructive contributions instead to wikipedia. Please dont leave comment after comment for me on my talk page it has been bothering me, you are definitely causing stress, and my WP:STALKING accusation for you holds true. Atulsnischal (talk) 18:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Your stalking accusations are unwarranted. I have been a long time contributor to GMO and biology topics here. Why shouldn't I take an interest in genetic erosion-type articles? Why do you think I even noticed your edits in the first place? Show me evidence of my edits not being constructive; almost all my edits have been to help your articles grow. You just can't see it in this case because you happen to disagree with my opinion (one that others share too).
When were those discussions and collaborative edits that led you to improve the POV of this text? To date, I have seen no evidence that you have been willing to receive independent input on this topic.
It’s a shame that you are unwilling to discuss this content dispute and instead try to change the subject and avoid any dialog. Is this your way of informing us you are unwilling to discuss any on the content you have inserted into multiple articles? Your input would be welcome but not necessary. David D. (Talk) 18:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:STALKING

So by changing the title of this topic and the subsequent removal of the dialog is your way of informing us you are unwilling to discuss any on the content you have inserted into mulitple articles? Your input would be welcome but not necessary. David D. (Talk) 18:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Listen I have Archived our previous conversation - it is in my talk page Archives [1], your edits are based on and motivated with WP:STALKING me on Wikipedia which you have been doing since the last year or so, outcome can not be healthy and I dont want to argue with you. Please do not go to my contributions page for following me from there to articles I have been working on, that is called stalking. Please dont get into ego clashes and personality clashes with people, just find articles randomly for contributing.

Hope it makes sense, also I did inform that I am busy with other stuff in life.

Best wishes, hope you will leave me alone.

Atulsnischal (talk) 21:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

ALL THE PICTURES ARE NOT IN THE SAME COLOUR.ONE IS IN COLOUR PHOTO ANOTHER ONE IS IN BLACK.NO RATING HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE PROJECT AND TO THE WIKIPEDIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.32.160 (talk) 00:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Iranian and Russian ecologists are planning a joint project designed to return to the wild the Caspian Tigers as well as Asiatic Cheetahs in the Central Asian region. These big cats had disappeared, the Asiatic Cheetah from Russia and Caspian Tiger from Iran, some half a century ago. Latest genetic studies have shown that the Russian or Amur Tiger is related and virtually identical to the extinct Caspian Tigers and hence will be used to repopulated the Caspian Tiger range in exchange for Asiatic Cheetahs. [1][2]

  1. ^ Iran, Russia Hope to Revive Extinct Big Cats Asiatiac Cheetah and Caspian Tiger; Source: Press TV; 09 january 2010; Payvand Iran News
  2. ^ Mitochondrial Phylogeography Illuminates the Origin of the Extinct Caspian Tiger and Its Relationship to the Amur Tiger
this sources are wrong! the exchange was Persian leopard not Asiatic cheetah! please remove this section from this wiki page.
here is some references:

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_tiger#Re-population_ideas
News: http://iwpr.net/report-news/big-cat-swap-raises-questions
and from Kremlin website: http://programmes.putin.kremlin.ru/en/tiger/news/18372

Persian.palas (talk) 12:25, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Use the NEWS ARTICLES listed here to improve this article

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Asiatic Cheetah Blog [2].

Thanks mrigthrishna (talk) 23:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Colour photo

Latest comment: 9 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

There's a colour photo on commons but I'm not sure that it's an Asiatic one :
 
Elfast (talk) 13:02, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

It is an Asiatic cheetah. This one in the photo and the species all have winter coats, longer fur on the belly and the back of the neck, a powerful neck at that, which all four African cheetah species don't have. Also, we have a new taxobox image here.--FierceJake754 (talk) 23:16, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Looks like a copyright violation. FunkMonk (talk) 23:16, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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using newspaper articles as source

Latest comment: 7 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

@FierceJake754: In general, I never trust journalists reporting survey results about wildlife. Three recent examples:

  • a Pakistani newspaper reported a dead cheetah in south-eastern Pakistan; the journo speculated that this animal must have come from the Thar desert in India, i.e. more than 200 km away!! But the photo displayed with this article showed a fishing cat; this photo was from the newspaper's archive.
  • an Indian newspaper reported a fishing cat hit by a vehicle in north-western India and showed an archive photo of a cheetah.
  • an Indian newspaper reported a leopard that had fallen into a well and was rescued by villagers; the vdo of the rescue operation showed a fishing cat.

Therefore, I suggest to use only peer-reviewed articles as reference, that are written by trustworthy wildlife biologists who know the area. For recent records of Asiatic cheetah in Iran, this would be foremost Iranian authors. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 11:52, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

I see. I have to admit that what you said is true. Sometimes, journalist reports may not be valid sources, as someone said that there were only 2 female Asiatic cheetahs remaining considering the records of births of several Asiatic cheetah cubs born before -- such report was denied soon later, as there is no way that there are only 2 females left. The species is indeed on the rise. Perhaps, I was wrong for adding such references in the first place. My apologies. I should add valid sources from authors or wildlife biologists who has real knowledge of the subjects. In that case, I'd have to remove that reference though.--FierceJake754 (talk) 05:56, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
What about the rather plentiful news coverage in Iran about cheetahs being spotted in Khar Turan National Park going on now? Leo1pard (talk) 16:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Hm. I checked the report. It is pretty legit though. Why not?--FierceJake754 (talk) 20:13, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
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Leo1pard (talk) 08:01, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Extinct??

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I found in a book Asiatic Cheetah as an extinct species. Is it really extinct or Critically endangered?? Dipimani Saikia (talk) 03:26, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


wikipedians are always confirming their attitutes

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Last day i found a news about a female with her 4 cubs, i published the link and then, the link vanished. And don't tell me that Youtube is not accepted, there are thousands if not millions YT links all around the wikis. And this was a ufficial news announced, not a fake claimed by someone without importance!

That's why i progressively quit wikipedia editing, too dumb censorship without a gram of common sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.11.3.98 (talk) 13:50, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Supreme Court allows introduction of African Cheetahs in India

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https://www.oneindia.com/india/supreme-court-allows-introduction-of-african-cheetahs-in-india-3022601.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.33.5.73 (talk) 17:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Iran spy case and torture

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Thus

https://iranwire.com/en/features/6777 Zezen (talk) 19:39, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Reintroduction

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-57313563 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChilternGiant (talk • contribs) 19:03, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kpddg (talk · contribs) 16:16, 6 January 2022 (UTC)


Hello Jazzstinger. I will be reviewing this article over the coming days. Please let me know for any problems. Thank You. Kpddg (talk) 16:16, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Section-wise Assessment

Lead Section

  • Good, well-written

Taxonomy

  • Fine

Evolution

  • Fine, no errors

Characteristics

  • 'The Asiatic cheetah has a buff- to light fawn-coloured....' remove the dash after buff
  • Give some more info on 'Kushki the cheetah'. Like where he lives, etc. Provide a source as well, or change caption to a general one.

Distribution and habitat

  • Fine
Former range
  • Very good

Ecology and behaviour

  • Good
Diet
  • Fine again
Reproduction
  • Good

Threats

  • Add a comma after India in the image caption

Conservation efforts

  • Good
  • Fine

See Also

  • Fine

Final Decision

GA review
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  1. It is reasonably well written.
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    b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  

Overall:
Pass:  

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This article is very good. There were only a few corrections which I made myself. Everything is fine. This article is   Passed. Kpddg (talk) 14:33, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Reintroduction section

Latest comment: 2 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

I object to Fowler&fowler's removal of the entire reintroduction section. Granted that the reintroduced subspecies is not A. j. venaticus; but a summary of Cheetah reintroduction in India is still very appropriate here. Possibly the section could be condensed some more. Also a reminder that this is a Good Article, and removing 5k of material had better be discussed beforehand. (And it would be nice if we could do this without mudslinging about the usual Indian grandiosity or grandiose (huh...) claims of expertise from having written part of an another article.) --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:30, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

I agree with Elmidae that the removal of such a big chunk of text requires prior discussion ! – BhagyaMani (talk) 08:39, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
I'm happy to add a summary of the efforts made to reintroduce the Asiatic cheetah from Iran in the 1970s and 1980s. But we can't have anything about the introduction of the Southeast African Cheetah, because it is being introduced in a number of other countries as well. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 09:47, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
In other words, the SEAfrican cheetah introduction (not reintroduction) properly belongs to the Southeast African cheetah page, where it is described (with accompanying pictures) in the section Southeast_African_cheetah#Reintroduction_projects, subsection "Outside Africa." Fowler&fowler«Talk» 09:48, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
I've now rewritten the section, sourcing it from Cheetah reintroduction in India, giving primacy to the plans for the reintroduction of the Asiatic cheetah which did not come to pass, and briefly describing the recent introduction of the African cheetahs and the scientific reaction to it. I believe it is significantly better than the incoherent account that had been in place, good article or not. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 10:16, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Thanks - that looks like a nicely comprehensive section now to me. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:39, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
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