Talk:Assassination and terrorism in Iran
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State terrorism vs. support for terrorism
editKazakhPol, I would encourage you to discuss all these changes you're making rather than just making them unilaterally. State terrorism and support for terrorism are not the same thing. Iran, for example, supports terrorism through other organizations in a number of ways, but it is certainly debatable whether the state itself directly is involved in these acts. We need to be as unambiguous as possible with these titles to avoid trouble. --Leifern 22:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- You made the change, I reverted, so if anyone is making unilateral changes here, it is you. The content in that section came from State terrorism#Iran. KazakhPol 03:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
As written, everything in this article is off-topic, given its title. For example, the article states "Iran simultaneously accuses the United States of engaging in terrorism" but says nothing which relates this unsourced allegation to terrorism within Iran. Similarly, the article makes various statements about alleged Iranian funding of terrorist organizations by Iran in other places, which is not terrorism in Iran. Indeed, terrorism inside Iran's borders is not mentioned here at all.
Given all of the above, I propose there is little enough left that could not be easily be moved into the main article on Iran, as appropriate. If the article is retained with the current name, it should be rewritten to talk about acts of terrorism inside Iran. Content about alleged terrorism by Iran belongs elsewhere. DGaw 13:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Hezbollah
editI removed Hezbollah from this article because just 6 countries recognized it as a terrorist organization. Please refer to Hezbollah#Introduction and Background.Sa.vakilian(t-c)--07:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Uh... do not do that again. Iranian support for Hezbollah is routinely referred to as state-sponsored terrorism in the West. KazakhPol 17:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Iran support Hezbollah but only six countries has recognized it terrorist organization. Even EU hasn't recognized it terrorist organization.--Sa.vakilian 17:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Problems with the current version of the page:
- The introductory sentence, "Terrorism in Iran has a long history," is an inadequate summary of terrorism in Iran.KazakhPol 17:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- You're right in this case.Sa.vakilian(t-c)--04:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- The assassinations of kings and viziers described in the second sentence is too long ago to be considered terrorism.KazakhPol 17:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Is time important is using terrorism. I don't think so.Sa.vakilian(t-c)--18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- The grammar in the first paragraph is very poor. See necessary changes in brackets: "During [the] Iranian Constitutional Revolution... politicians [were] assassinated[,] especially by [the] punishment committee. During [the] Pahlavi dynasty some assassinations took place by[,] or against[,] [the] government. After [the] Islamic Revolution of Iran," et cetera.KazakhPol 17:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ok We can clean it up.Sa.vakilian(t-c)--18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- The content in the first paragraph is unsourced.KazakhPol 17:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'll add source from Britanica and other reliable sites. Please wait.Sa.vakilian(t-c)--18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- We then have ten empty sections. Sections should not be included until they have content.KazakhPol 17:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- OK. We can put terrorism during Islamic republic history instead of attacks.Sa.vakilian(t-c)--18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- The section on Iran Air Flight 655 is unsourced.KazakhPol 17:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- We can lok for sources in main article.Sa.vakilian(t-c)--18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- The section on Mashhad bombing also has poor grammar. See necessary changes in brackets: "On June 20, 1994 [a bomb exploded] in [the] prayer hall of Imam Reza shrine in Mashhad. [The bomb killed] at least 25 people." The rest of the paragraph is unreadable.KazakhPol 17:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- We can clean it up.Sa.vakilian(t-c)--18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- The removal of Hezbollah is inappropriate. It is a designated terrorist organization that the Iranian government supports. Such content is relevant to the page.KazakhPol 17:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- If we want to obey NPOV policy, we should say that Iran recognize Hezbollah as legitimate resistance against occupation while 6 countries designate it as terrorist organization.Sa.vakilian(t-c)--18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- That's fine, just make sure you post a source for that. KazakhPol 21:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone has stated that Jundallah set off bombs in Balochistan in retaliation for the execution of Ahwazi Arabs, but there is no reference for this claim and I think it is highly unlikely.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 22:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Merge proposal
editDiscuss at Talk:Allegations of state terrorism by Iran#Merge proposal. Yahel Guhan 02:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
How is it within the scope of this article to include "There was a handful of Iranians among the thousands of victims of September 11, 2001 attacks", when that did not occur within Iran? I'm particularly perplexed as to why it is in the lead. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 00:17, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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