Talk:Assassination attempts on Adolf Hitler

What is this supposed to mean?

"All attempts involved members of the German Reich, except where noted."

What is a "member" of the German Reich supposed to mean? Does it mean a German citizen? A German official, bureaucrat or soldier? A member of some government body or organisation? A constituent sub-national entity?

Countries don't have "members", in general. What is a "member of the United States"? Eregli bob (talk) 16:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Citizens. Solved.Hoops gza (talk) 16:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Speer's attempt

Albert Speer in 1945 planned to dump poison gas into the bunker ventilation system. Should this be included? -OberRanks (talk) 13:24, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

• I don't think so. It doesn't sound like a sufficiently realized event.Hoops gza (talk) 04:35, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

• I think it is not sufficiently established whether Speer really did plan this attempt, or whether he claimed this at the Nuremberg Trial, to safe his neck.

Detail the attempts

No joke, we should say what each foiled attempt was. Agrred?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zarbonholio (talk • contribs) 12:38, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Well my good sir, that does make sense. I support this action. Trunks is killed by #17 —Preceding undated comment added 13:05, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Unknown?

For two of the 1934 attempts, the location is "Unknown" and the assailant is "Unknown". How can these attempts even be listed when nothing is known about them? Either provide a reference to some information source or delete these for lack of confirmed information. 23:41, 23 February 2013 (UTC)69.125.134.86 (talk)

Are we sure about these?

Are each of these assassination attempts verifiable? There are no sources cited for most of these entries. Furthermore, many of these entries are not explained. For instance, the 1940 attempt by General von Witzleben in France; what happened? Why is there no mention of this in the von Witzleben article? Also, the number of "unknown/unknown" entries is troubling. I think I'm going to do some research into this in books, then perhaps remove a few entries if I can't find any confirmation. Herzlicheboy (talk) 17:56, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Number of attempts

The description above the tables says "After 1933: Ten attempts" yet the table has 27 rows. Is each row a separate attempt or does the description need to be updated? Shmuel A. Kam (talk) 15:51, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Arnold Diggerman?

There appears no online or Google Books reference on any "Arnold Diggerman" existing and trying to kill Hitler. That name was added to the article only after 6 August 2017, being changed from the previous Beppo Römer (after previous 20 June 2017 and 6 August 2017 vandalisms, "Cameron Beaumont" and "Daniel Cresswell"). Until any proof of Diggerman's existance as attempted killer of Hitler is added, it is reverted back to Beppo Römer. 94.63.176.150 (talk) 10:04, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Helmut Hirsch

Should Helmut Hirsch be included? As his bombing targets were believed to be the Nazi party headquarters in Nuremberg, and/or the printing works that produced the antisemitic weekly propaganda newspaper Der Stürmer.2001:8B0:2AF:AAA9:58FB:F3C9:C03B:1C84 (talk) 09:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Atentados a Hitler: lista de 21 ou mais de 40? Milagres ou intuições do inconsciente?

Wikipedia publica uma lista de 21 atentados a Hitler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler. Não recordo se escutei ou li que foram mais de 40 atentados contra Hitler, aproveitados pela propaganda para o considerar abençoado por Deus e salvo por milagre. Em minha opinião muitos dos "milagres" das crenças populares são acasos, coincidência e coisas que parecem incríveis devem-se a fenómenos paranormais ou parapsicológicos, resultantes de intuições do inconsciente. Em minha opinião Hitler foi o político da história da humanidade que melhor utilizou as capacidades intuitivas para subir no poder político. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PiresPortugal (talk • contribs) 16:28, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Shouldn't the final entry be Hitler himself?

Hitler's well-documented suicide would seem to qualify, in semantic and practical terms, as a successful assassination attempt upon himself. Rob T Firefly (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Haha, that’s technically right but I don’t think that fits Justanotherguy54 (talk) 20:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Highly misleading number of so-called "attempts, made on Hitler"

So, this or that officer, e. g., bore in his mind the intention to shoot Hitler, if chance be. Does that really fulfil the definition of an "attempted" attack on him ? In the end, for such an incredibly high number of attempts, very few people were in fact catched by Hitler's or Nazi Germany's "security" forces. And how could they, if, in the end, nothing happened at many of these so-called "attempted assassinations" ? Shooting a person or shooting a person not is a quite simple issue. In an environment, where many people bear loaded pistols etc, like military officers in wartime. Think that number of some forty "attempts" on Hitler is mainly based on Berthold, and reproduced since then without much thinking about. one might get the impression of a public relations trick to overstate the Widerstand effort of especially military circles somewhat. Interestingly enough, any time the Hitler regime or Nazi Germany achieved a success, e. g. at Sudeten crisis in 1938 or after France fell in summer 1940, they said to themselves: "not really good time, why should we kill him right now after his - and Germany's - indisputable (!) triumph. Very "cyclical" or "trend dependent", this resistance movement. Suppose, (nearly) everything would be o. k. for them, if Hitler had beaten Stalin... And who would have made an attempt on him, should this have been the case in, say, fall of 1941 ? --129.187.244.19 (talk) 10:37, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Römer / 1934 ?

Only one example: turned over to the Gestapo before any concrete plan could be made - So, that should count as "attempted assassination" ? Not really. --213.172.123.242 (talk) 07:18, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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