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Redlinks in the list of presidents
editThere are two types of redlinks in the list. One is that there is indeed no article about a particular president. In this case, we need to create such a article, at least as a stub. The other is that there is in fact already an article about this president, but redirects are required. For example, Stanley J. Tambiah should be redirected to Stanley Jeyaraja Tambiah. Let's eliminate the redlinks in the list. --Evecurid (talk) 18:10, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Good advice! I weeded out quite a few and even created some redlinks when the earlier link led to the wrong person. Academia was dominated at that point by men with Anglo-Saxon names -- two "Halls" two "Wards," for example. So we also need to check out even the links which are not red. This sometimes means adding a link to a disambiguation page or creating a disambiguation page. Tedious but necessary!ch (talk) 18:24, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
List of AAS Presidents
editEvecurid and I have been discussing here about developing this section. We have talked about splitting the section off into a List Article, but for the time being it seems better to leave it as a section. We hope that the list will encourage editors to create articles about the presidents who are now redlinked. If editors have draft articles in their userspaces or on their computers, it would be a good idea to give notice here so as to avoid duplication.
It's fine to create "start" class article or even a a "stub" -- see stub. The "stub" does have the disadvantage of changing any links from red and perhaps dangerously giving the impression that the work has been done where a red link is a call to action.
Evecurid has already created a solid article on Evelyn Rawski.ch (talk) 18:17, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- I have just created the template Template:AAS Presidents and the article for the current president Mrinalini Sinha. --Evecurid (talk) 00:19, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Update and question: Evecurid is doing an impressive and welcome job of developing this section, creating a template, and editing the pages of the presidents. Question: is being president of AAS important enough in their careers to mention in the lead paragraph of the scholar's article and sometimes repeat in the page? It strikes me as being out of proportion to do so. Whoever wrote the initial article on the person didn't think so. But I hesitate to reverse these additions without discussion. What do you think? Cheers! ch (talk)
- I think it's worth mentioning in the lead paragraph if it is at least one of the most important titles of this scholar. The fact that the scholar had served this post is also an evidence of notability of him/her. In my own experience: if I had mentioned that Evelyn Rawski was once a president of AAS (or that she was a *seminal* figure of the New Qing History) in the lead of that article earlier, then it would probably never have been requested by someone for AfD because of notability issue. --Evecurid (talk) 18:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- That's a good point, though Rawski also holds a named chair, which is enough in itself. Could we make a judgment on a case by case basis? For Barbara Daly Metcalf, for instance, the article is still a stub, so the AAS connection is needed, but in the case of others, such as Barbara Stoler Miller, for instance, adding an honor that lasted only one year and leaving out the list of others looks disproportionate (though maybe we should move the others up into a separate section, which is a common enough move). It's not necessary to be completely consistent, but it's nice to be generally parallel.ch (talk) 05:48, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, a judgement on a case by case basis is fine for me. But I think we need to make the deciding factors for the inclusion more concrete. For example, we should include it if it was at least one of the most important titles of this scholar? And also other factors? --Evecurid (talk) 17:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- That's a good point, though Rawski also holds a named chair, which is enough in itself. Could we make a judgment on a case by case basis? For Barbara Daly Metcalf, for instance, the article is still a stub, so the AAS connection is needed, but in the case of others, such as Barbara Stoler Miller, for instance, adding an honor that lasted only one year and leaving out the list of others looks disproportionate (though maybe we should move the others up into a separate section, which is a common enough move). It's not necessary to be completely consistent, but it's nice to be generally parallel.ch (talk) 05:48, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- I think it's worth mentioning in the lead paragraph if it is at least one of the most important titles of this scholar. The fact that the scholar had served this post is also an evidence of notability of him/her. In my own experience: if I had mentioned that Evelyn Rawski was once a president of AAS (or that she was a *seminal* figure of the New Qing History) in the lead of that article earlier, then it would probably never have been requested by someone for AfD because of notability issue. --Evecurid (talk) 18:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Update and question: Evecurid is doing an impressive and welcome job of developing this section, creating a template, and editing the pages of the presidents. Question: is being president of AAS important enough in their careers to mention in the lead paragraph of the scholar's article and sometimes repeat in the page? It strikes me as being out of proportion to do so. Whoever wrote the initial article on the person didn't think so. But I hesitate to reverse these additions without discussion. What do you think? Cheers! ch (talk)
Evecurid: thanks again for creating the AAS prexy template, which makes the section redundant, so I moved it to a new section below. ch (talk)
Detail Edit Summaries to avoid duplication
editApologies -- I should have noted in my Edit Summaries exactly which links I checked and which I changed. We should all note these changes so that the work does not get duplicated. ch (talk) 18:29, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
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Moved list of AAS presidents
editI cut this from the article because the information duplicated the AAS Presidents template, but moved it here in case it might be useful for some other purpose. It's in reverse chronological order, which might be useful some day.
- Prasenjit Duara 2019
- Anne Feldhaus 2018
- Katherine Bowie, 2017
- Laurel Kendall, 2016
- Timothy Brook 2015
- Mrinalini Sinha, 2014
- Thongchai Winichakul, 2013
- Ted Bestor, 2012
- Gail Hershatter, 2011
- K. Sivaramakrishnan, 2010
- Robert W. Hefner, 2009
- Robert Buswell, 2008
- Elizabeth J. Perry, 2007
- Anand Yang, 2006
- Barbara Watson Andaya, 2005
- Mary Elizabeth Berry, 2004
- James L. Watson, 2003
- David Ludden, 2002
- Charles F. Keyes, 2001
- Peter Duus, 2000
- Susan L. Mann, 1999
- Wendy Doniger, 1998
- James Scott, 1997
- Carol Gluck, 1996
- Evelyn Sakakida Rawski, 1995
- Barbara Daly Metcalf, 1994
- David K. Wyatt, 1993
- Tetsuo Najita, 1992
- Albert Feuerwerker, 1991
- Barbara Stoler Miller, 1990
- Stanley J. Tambiah, 1989
- Robert J. Smith, 1988
- Rhoads Murphey, 1987
- Susanne Hoeber Rudolph, 1986
- Frank H. Golay, 1985
- James William Morley, 1984
- G. William Skinner, 1983
- Ainslie T. Embree, 1982
- Paul Wheatley, 1981
- Eleanor Jorden, 1980
- Benjamin I. Schwartz, 1979
- Richard L. Park, 1978
- John M. Echols, 1977
- Marius B. Jansen, 1976
- Ping-ti Ho, 1975
- Richard D. Lambert, 1974
- George T. Kahin, 1973
- Robert E. Ward, 1972
- C. Martin Wilbur, 1971
- Cora DuBois, 1970
- Wm Theodore de Bary, 1969
- Holden Furber, 1968
- John W. Hall, 1967
- Karl J. Pelzer, 1966
- Knight Biggerstaff, 1965
- Arthur F. Wright, 1964
- William W. Lockwood, 1963
- Earl H. Pritchard, 1962
- Lauriston Sharp, 1961
- W. Norman Brown, 1960
- George B. Cressey, 1959
- John K. Fairbank, 1958
- Hugh Borton, 1957
- L. Carrington Goodrich, 1956
- Edwin O. Reischauer, 1955
- Kenneth Scott Latourette, 1954
- Felix M. Keesing, 1953
- Rupert Emerson, 1952
- Robert B. Hall, 1951
- Harold S. Quigley, 1950
- Charles S. Gardner, 1949
- Arthur W. Hummel, Sr., 1948
Cheers, ch (talk) 17:02, 14 September 2019 (UTC)