Talk:Assyrian flag
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editWho designed this in 1968? Who adopted it in 1971? --Wetman 20:00, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to include it. The answer to both is the Assyrian Universal Alliance. --334 14:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Ancient Flag / Standard
editCan anybody find the ancient Assyrian flag/standard which the Assyrians would carry into battle?? I think there should be an actual bronze or gold Assyrian standard from the 1st millenium BC, which they excavated somewhere. --Šarukinu 00:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Wording
edit"indicating the blood spilled by the Assyrians prior to and during World War I"
I think you mean the red indicates the blood of Assyrians being spilled, not Assyrians spilling blood. Assyrians were the alledged victims of a geneocide, not the other way around.
8-pointed star
editSome designs of the Flag of Iraq use an 8-pointed star for the Assyrian minority - Where does this symbol come from? — Sebastian 06:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- The 8 river waves (4 blue, 4 red) Chaldean (talk) 07:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- I see. That would also explain the uneven distribution of the points. Is there any reference for that? — Sebastian 07:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- I remember reading it in my Iraqi elementary class, but don't have any reference. Sorry. Chaldean (talk) 07:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Since you are Assyrian, may I ask you if in your impression a majority of Assyrians feels this symbol represents them? I personally find that it looks harmonious, is unique and simple enough for flags. — Sebastian 07:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- You know this is such a tricky question because there is so much politics behind the issue. To be honest with you, no, the majority of them don't use it and they (Chaldean Assyrians, Syriac Assyrians who make up the vast majority of Assyrians) don't feel like it represents them because they feel Nestorian Assyrians created the flag without addressing them. Chaldean (talk) 16:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, thanks for the explanation! I brought it up here because, when I saw the new proposed design for the Flag of Iraq, I liked it, but it reminded me of the Saint Patrick's cross in the Union Jack. Thanks also for making me aware of the distinctions among Assyrians. — Sebastian 18:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Interesting. Is the green star sapose to represent the Assyrians? If so, then the color should be red like Qassim's old flag. Chaldean (talk) 18:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's how I understood the news message. However, because I didn't see any source explicitly saying so, I had to beat around the bush in the text I added to the article. — Sebastian 02:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC) (I may not be watching this page anymore. If you would like to continue the conversation, please do so here and let me know.)
- Interesting. Is the green star sapose to represent the Assyrians? If so, then the color should be red like Qassim's old flag. Chaldean (talk) 18:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, thanks for the explanation! I brought it up here because, when I saw the new proposed design for the Flag of Iraq, I liked it, but it reminded me of the Saint Patrick's cross in the Union Jack. Thanks also for making me aware of the distinctions among Assyrians. — Sebastian 18:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- You know this is such a tricky question because there is so much politics behind the issue. To be honest with you, no, the majority of them don't use it and they (Chaldean Assyrians, Syriac Assyrians who make up the vast majority of Assyrians) don't feel like it represents them because they feel Nestorian Assyrians created the flag without addressing them. Chaldean (talk) 16:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Since you are Assyrian, may I ask you if in your impression a majority of Assyrians feels this symbol represents them? I personally find that it looks harmonious, is unique and simple enough for flags. — Sebastian 07:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- I remember reading it in my Iraqi elementary class, but don't have any reference. Sorry. Chaldean (talk) 07:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- I see. That would also explain the uneven distribution of the points. Is there any reference for that? — Sebastian 07:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Shamash / Utu (Sun god) star
editThe star on the flag is the old star symbol associated with Shamash the sun deity (also associated with the planet Saturn). I'm having trouble finding any sources which verify this, don't know how it can be anything else. Just a colorized version with the "rivers" extended further, otherwise identical. He was worshipped in the Mesopotamian region and was also known as Šamaš. He was apparently the deity who provided those mysterious leaders who showed up out of nowhere in th region with divine laws. (like Hammurabi, Ur-Nammu, and Gudea) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.224.155 (talk) 16:35, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Updating the Assyrian Flag to the official version
editHello all, I have a source specifically from the Assyrian Democratic Alliance who are using the most current Assyrian Flag.. I don't have the authorization to update the current flag located on this page, but I am requesting any sort of help in doing so.. My sources are in this link http://aua.net/index.php/about-assyrians/assyria-flag and this one as well http://www.atour.com/education/20000602b.html as you can tell the websites are up to date and both are using an updated official version of the Assyrian flag resembling the sun god Ashur in full color.. I have uploaded the image as well in case anyone needs the file for it. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assyrian612 (talk • contribs) 09:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
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Consider Image Replacement for Historical Alignment
editIt is advisable to consider replacing the main image in accordance with traditional associations: a yellow hue for the circle and golden shades for the depiction of the god Ashur. This would align with historical connotations and symbolism. Diklath (talk) 00:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC)