Talk:Asyut
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Suggest merge with Asyut Governorate
editSuggest merge with Asyut Governorate
editBoth articles about the same city Assyut in Egypt
- Um, absolutly not. Asyut is an ancient egyptian site, even though it shares its name with a modern site. It would be incorrect to merge this with another page concerning data almost 5000 years removed, especially because there is no continuity of culture. The governates are their own set of pages, but no ancient egypt related page should have the name "Governate" anywhere on it. Thanatosimii 03:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but as it stands now both articles discuss the same location in ambiguous ways. Asyut Governorate describes the modern region as directly related to the ancient site: "In the hellenic era of Ancient Egypt, Asyut was known as Lycopolis," while Asyut mentions Nasser and Ahmed Lutfi Al Sayed as being from the city. So if the articles are distinct, which is ancient and which is modern? Jlittlet 21:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Asyut, a historic city located in Upper Egypt along the Nile River, exudes a timeless charm and rich cultural heritage. Serving as the capital of the Asyut Governorate, this ancient settlement boasts a legacy dating back thousands of years, with traces of its storied past evident in its archaeological sites and monuments. Asyut is renowned for its pivotal role in ancient Egyptian history, serving as a strategic hub for trade and administration. Today, the city is a bustling urban center, blending modernity with tradition, and is known for its vibrant markets, bustling streets, and lively atmosphere. Visitors to Asyut can explore its archaeological treasures, such as the nearby tombs of Meir and the Temple of Seth, as well as immerse themselves in the local culture, cuisine, and hospitality that epitomize the warmth of Upper Egypt. With its blend of history, culture, and contemporary life, Asyut offers travelers a captivating glimpse into Egypt's past and present.
Cleanup rather than merge
editThe article about Asyut Governorate should be cleaned up by removing irrelevant information and data, or moving the information about Asyut city to the article of Asyut.
Both articles should stay separate, as the case for all the other Egyptian governorates holding the names of their largest city.
Nasser
editNasser was born in Alexandria, so what does it mean " people from Asyut". --TheEgyptian 01:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
no Nasser born in assiut , in Bany Mor
Merger proposal
editIt has been suggested (though not by me) that Assuit be merged to Asyut. I oppose such a merger, on the grounds that Assuit describes a type of cloth named for the region, not the region itself. I have no objection to moving Assuit to Tulle bi telli, which is a redirect to Assuit. Cnilep (talk) 20:25, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, a name change makes sense to me. If Tulle bi telli is too obscure, then maybe call the article about the cloth "Asyut (textile)". I hadn't fully appreciated the distinction between the articles, but it still seems strange to have both names being the name of the region, but spelled differently. Is the transliterated spelling really different for both? 99of9 (talk) 23:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Spelling of name
editWhy is this page spelled Asyut but otherwise as in Assiut Barrage? Is there an established precedent in the English language aside from sheer romanization from the Arabic?-- Deborahjay (talk) 12:01, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Found his article, but he wasn't born here. Doug Weller talk 10:16, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
Requested move 12 February 2019
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 20:47, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Asyut → Assiut – Searching the web for both Asyut and Assiut, I found that both are being used by many sources; but I believe that latter should be used as the name of this article since it's often used rather than Asyut. Ben5218 (talk) 17:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 22:05, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose no evidence given suggesting Assiut as more common. Apparently, the current title is in common use such as 1, Asyut Regional Unit, Asyut Treasure, Asyut Petroleum. samee converse 17:53, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Samee: We have Assiut Airport, Assiut Barrage, Assiut University and Our Lady of Assiut. Not to mention what appears when we search the web for it. Ben5218 (talk) 19:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose It is not easy to romanize Arabic words. But Asyūṭ/Asyut (seldom variant: Asyout) is the correct transliteration of the Arabic name both by rules of ISO 233 and DIN 31635 (proposed by the Deutsche Morgenländische Gesellschaft) and corresponds to the real spelling of that name. That's why it was used both on OpenStreetMap and Geonames websites for the town, the markaz, and the governorate. Assiut is an old, now nonconform and outdated transliteration similar to Assuan which is now exclusively written as Aswan. In modern subject-specific encyclopedias like the Encyclopedia of Islam it is written as Asyut/Usyut. Now Asyut is also more and more used in Egyptology as you can learn it from the German Asyut Project or British Museum's Asyut Project. Asyut is used in other lemmas like Asyut Treasure, Asyut Petroleum and others, too. I think Assiut should be only a redirect. --RolandUnger (talk) 06:03, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
"Saut" listed at Redirects for discussion
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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Saut and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20#Saut until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. BD2412 T 01:57, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- This page needs more information related to the city and its impact pertaining to the world/region Pandastmina (talk) 23:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: North African History, AFH 4302
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