Talk:Atlantic menhaden

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The illustration appears to be distorted. Aspect ratio should be increased 20% or so, in life this is a relatively slim fish with proportions similar to those of a Bluefish.

I added a physical description, fishing methods, and combined use paragraphs as fishmeal, oil and fertilizer. It is, of course, most valuable as fish meal and least as fertilizer. SEIBasaurus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SEIBasaurus (talk • contribs) 20:08, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

It is important to remember that Franklin has not written his article from an objective viewpoint. A better source of information would be a NGO or government website...www.asmfc.org would be a good place to start. I plan to add much more information to this in about two weeks. Patriothntr — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.195.191.71 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Missing references

References (Goode 1887) and (ASMFC 2005) were added to the text but not to the references section. What are they? Goode 1887 is perhaps George Brown Goode (1887). The Fisheries and Fishery Industries of the United States. Section V. History and Methods of the Fisheries. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office. but there were several ASMFC publications in 2005. Gdr 14:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

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COI tag

Tzjones, an editor who works for Saving Seafood (see the editor's user page), a fishing industry trade organization, recently joined WP and has been directly editing this and other articles. I have placed a COI tag on this article. Once an independent editor has reviewed changes made by Tzjones for NPOV and sourcing, the tag can be removed. Please make a note here when you do that. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 01:15, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

feeding

The article does not mention the overwhelming opinion that proper regulation of the fishery needs to enforce a minimum size limit to allow smaller menhaden to filter feed until they or too large to have significant impact on water quality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.51.237.235 (talk) 03:25, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your note! Do you have any reliable sources that we could use to support such content? Jytdog (talk) 03:20, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Article appears to be biased

Hi,

I am not an appropriate editor because I lack the scientific expertise, but this article appears to selectively emphasize evidence favorable to the commercial menhaden fishery and does not include evidence of the ecological importance of menhaden nor the current battle over the Virginia reduction fishery. Here is an example of an article that references some of the missing evidence. I do not have access to the primary scientific literature. http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/analysis/2016/07/28/10-reasons-to-maintain-the-atlantic-menhaden-catch-limit-in-2017

How do I ask for help about this, because it is a critically important fish and Wikipedia is not living up to its best promise with this article.

Thank you! 108.56.240.66 (talk) 22:16, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Request edit on 18 July 2023

This article heavily favors commercial fisheries and the reduction fishing industry, and the edits were made by a user with close ties to the reduction fishing industry despite the editors claimed "neutrality". It suggests that because the fishing industry has a low number of bycatches it is therefore a sustainable and eco-friendly industry, while the removal of menhaden from the Chesapeake Bay has negatively impacted the fertility of many other species and overall lead to declining bay health. Friends of the Sea, the organization the previous editor is associated with, is primarily financed through companies purchasing the rights to use its logo on their products, so Friends of the Sea clearly has a financial interest in declaring that menhaden are not susceptible to overfishing despite historical evidence.

It includes incorrect information that menhaden consume or prefer zooplankton based on articles that draw no such conclusion in order to further the goal of suggesting menhaden are not crucial to the health of Atlantic bays. It fails to mention that reduction fishing has been banned in all Atlantic states except Virginia and North Carolina. It fails to discuss any of the historical controversy or dramatic decrease in the menhaden population in the 19th and 20th centuries as a result of overfishing.

This article is in drastic need of a complete rewrite that acknowledges the menhaden's importance in bay health and the controversies.

References

43.225.189.109 (talk) 20:37, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The current request is not specific enough to make changes to the page. Consider developing changes in a new talk section or visit the conflict of interest noticeboard for serious issues.  Spintendo  22:16, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Correction Needed - Life Cycle & Plankton

Hey there seems to be a typo when discussing manhaden feeding as it pertains to life cycle stage & which type of plankton it feeds on. Under the Diet section it currently says "When the rakers are smaller, which generally correspond to when they are under the age of 1, Atlantic menhaden feed primarily on zooplankton. As they age and their gill rakers grow larger, menhaden shift their diet to primarily consume phytoplankton." --> This needs to be swapped such that it reads: larval menhaden eat (the smaller) phytoplankton and then as they age up switch their diets to primarily zooplankton. 74.95.121.126 (talk) 00:38, 13 November 2023 (UTC)