Talk:Atomic physics

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I'm certainly not a specialist in this area of physics, but I've studied Nuclear Engineering and have been personally interested in the subject for many years. In my opinion it is pedantic to attempt to create a meaningful distinction between Atomic Physics and Nuclear Physics. As the article states, in common English most people use the two terms interchangeably.

What if the article used language similar to: "Atomic Physics" is a common, non-technical term referring to what is more properly called "Nuclear Physics". The exact distinction between the two terms derives from the classic Bohr theory of the atom in which a dense nucleus is surrounded by a "cloud" or shell of electrons.

In the early days of "atomic science" researchers discovered many characteristics of the atom and developed theories regarding the interaction between them. A great deal of the research dealt with the properties of the electron shell. For example: valence, chemistry, emission spectra, electrical conduction, photo-electricity, structure of crystals, etc.

All of these areas of investigation have become discrete scientific disciplines, even though they might be thought of collectively as "atomic physics."

Nuclear physics, on the other hand, is explicitly concerned with the part of the atom that remains when the electron shell is discarded. It is the realm of two of the four major forces in nature: the strong and the weak force. It is the principal area of investigation by particle accelerators. It's study led to the development of the atomic bomb (poorly named, as it happens) and nuclear energy.

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I thoroughly disagree with the suggestion that the distinction between Atomic and Nuclear physics is overly pedantic. The general public may consider the terms interchangable, but practicing physicists certainly do not. Not only are they regarded as distinct areas of specialization, but this distinction is a fairly high level one. They're not nearly as closely related as, say, atomic physics and quantum optics. The main reason for this, I would guess, is that they deal with different forces -- electromagnetic vs. nuclear forces.

As one example of this distinction, note that the American Physical Society maintains separate journals for Atomic physics and for Nuclear physics: http://pra.aps.org http://prc.aps.org

In defining the scope of Physical Review A through E, the APS has basically sliced physics into five large sectors -- and Nuclear physics and Atomic physics are in different pieces of the pie. Tim314 01:37, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

The suggestion that there isn't a distinction is without any merit. In any case, as none of these comments are explicitly dated or signed it is difficult to take them seriously. AtomBoy 22:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

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Somewhere in here should be mentioned the "standard model" of the atom, the fundamental particles, radiation, Madame Curie, quantum theory, fission and fusion, the Sun, and Richard P. Feynman.

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A Good Idea

Do you beleive it is possible to intertwine atoms so that the electrons are going around and around and if you use this idea in a radioactive substance such as uranium them it could create energy.Matthew Perry SA 11:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Query

I am a laymen and have no background in the learning of physics. But it seems to me that if particle reassignment is used to creat new atoms, then particle farming is not far fetched and is in so doing were to amass the two base componants of the atom whitch is common to all,and in theory free unbound entergy particals detween as pure particle masses sepparit from each other. then with a signifigat mass of each, prabrably of eaqual mass. then set at close proxsemitry to each other a reaction would accur producing electrons as is the case with an atom but on a much higher level depending on the mass of the particles. enabling a basic battery with the shelf life of the particales like is the case of an atom? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.80.82.66 (talk) 18:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC) Kampmannpeine (talk) 18:01, 25 May 2010 (UTC)small changes for better format of printingKampmannpeine (talk) 18:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

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Atomic physics degree

As I write this, a Google search in quotation marks for "atomic physics degree" produces just TWO results for the entire English-language Internet. On the web page for Princeton University's Department of Physics: https://phy.princeton.edu/graduate-program/degree-requirements it says, as I write this: "PHY 551 Atomic Physics (not taught every year)." It seems like atomic physics is covered by other more glamorous sounding degrees today. 5Q5 (talk) 11:38, 17 May 2018 (UTC)