Talk:August 2

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August 2: Roma Holocaust Memorial Day Krishna Lal Adhikari 461 – Unpopular among the Senate aristocracy for his reforming efforts, Roman emperor Majorian was deposed by Ricimer and executed five days later. 1100 – While on a hunting trip in the New Forest, King William II of England was killed by an arrow through the lung loosed by one of his own men. 1790 – The first United States census was officially completed, with the nation's residential population enumerated to be 3,929,214. 1920 – Nepalese author Krishna Lal Adhikari (pictured) was sentenced to nine years in prison for publishing a book about the cultivation of corn alleged to contain attacks on the ruling dynasty. 1973 – A flash fire killed 50 people at a leisure centre in Douglas, Isle of Man. Pope Severinus (d. 640) Harriet Arbuthnot (d. 1834) Bertha Lutz (b. 1894) Simone Manuel (b. 1996) More anniversaries: August 1 August 2 August 3

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Explanation of style revert

An anon user changed multiple entries from the same year from:

1. 1944 - The "Zigenerblock of the extermination camp Auschwitz-Birkenau is liquidated. The last 3000 Sinti and Roma are murdered by German SS.
2. 1944 - Beginning of the Treblinka uprising.

to

1. 1944 - The "Zigenerblock of the extermination camp Auschwitz-Birkenau is liquidated. The last 3000 Sinti and Roma are murdered by German SS.

• • - Beginning of the Treblinka uprising.

In my opinion this formatting is inferior because the algignments don't flow, and it makes the second entry look like a subsiduary of the first, which it isn't necessarily. For this reason I have reverted to the former style. Thryduulf 01:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

To the constant reverters

See the article of Ilinden-Preobrazhenie Uprising and comment there.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Ilinden-Preobrazhenie Uprising

Please refer to sources listed in that article instead of mechanically removing clarifications. Mr. Neutron 18:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

The IMRO article does not state the ethnicity of the combatants rather than the organization itself. Frightner 18:15, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Check again: The rebellion in Macedonia affected most of the central and southwestern parts of the Bitola Vilayet receiving the support of the local Bulgarian peasants, Grkomani and Vlach population of the region. It is the Ilinden-Preobrazhenie one. Mr. Neutron 18:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Read the articles used as sources, it specifically refers to the population living within the Macedonian boundaries as "Macedonians". Your reference does not prove that the uprising was carried out solely by Bulgarians and Greeks. Frightner 18:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Btw, the Ilinden-Preobrazhenie uprishing did not take part only in the region of Macedonia, but also in the Odrin region. Mr. Neutron 18:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Please provide sources for your claims, you have not done this on an outstanding amount of occasions. Please refer to this map which outlines the geographic locations of the individual rebellions. Frightner 18:44, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

As mentioned, read sources at Ilinden-Preobrazhenie uprising, and stop waving some maps from Macedonist forums. Mr. Neutron 19:21, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I am not waving anything. Unlike yourself, I am providing adequate criteria to help you understand my opinion and to further resolve this debate. Frightner 19:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

So why don't you go ahead and read the article then? So far the only thing you have proved is that you have not done this. --Laveol ^T 21:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Please read the previous comments Laveol before jumping to conclusions. Frightner 09:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

As far as I see you're the one jumping into conlusions without first reading the article in question and checking the sources behind it. --Laveol ^T 10:02, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Mr. Neutron clearly stated " "Macedonian" ethnicity did not exist then". He then referred me to the sources in the IMRO article which clearly identify individuals living within Macedonia's borders as Macedonians. As far as I'm concerned, users such as yourselves constanly change your POV to suit your nationalistic beliefs. Frightner 10:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

You have read this in non-etnic Macedonian sources? Are you sure? --Laveol ^T 11:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Unless John McDonald is an ethnic Macedonian, then yes I am sure. Frightner 11:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

New Event 2008

Jamboree 2008 (Ireland) is to commence tomorow (2nd August), and finish on the 10th of August. It is important as it is the first jamboree being organised by Scouting Ireland. The Jamboree will also celebrate 100 years of scouting in Ireland. If there are no objections, I will be adding it to the list before the end of the day.Seanor3 (talk) 17:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

This event does not have global notability. Generally, it is impossible to judge the long term global notability of an event until some time after it has occurred, let alone before it has occurred. The event does not seem appropriate for the list. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 17:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Personnaly, I believe it does have global notability, due to both its size(it will be the biggest held this year). And the high number of international troops attending. Out of a total 15,000 approx. on site, one fifth (3000) will be international attendees.Seanor3 (talk) 17:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

It seems that it would have little notability outside the world of scouting and it would have little impact on the world at large in the long term. It sounds like a nice little festival, but at the very least, we'd need to see what impact it has on the world before we add it to the list. If it is still a popular topic in world newscasts in three months, then perhaps it should be included. If it serves only to be newsworthy for the duration of the festival, then it will not have the long term global notability necessary for inclusion. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 18:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Fair Enough.Seanor3 (talk) 19:32, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Why the change?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=August_2&diff=650480727&oldid=650405523

"internationally recognized" is not a requirement. If the subject is sufficiently notable (see WP:N) then it's fine to have an entry here. Otherwise, who is determining the criteria for international recognition? It seems entirely arbitrary. In fact two different editors have created two different lists and many of the names on the list I don't recognize. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Spacing

WP:SPACING and MOS:LAYOUT are the closest to defining spacing. While Wikipedia:Manual of Style contains MOS:HEAD that indicates spacing around titles is optional, not mandatory, but is clear that "The heading must be on its own line, with one blank line just before it; a blank line just after is optional and ignored (but do not use two blank lines, before or after, because that will add unwanted visible space)." Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists does not stipulate whether spaces should be used between bullets and list items. There are no standards or policies as claimed [1] by Eposty (talk · contribs). If other pages are ignoring correct spacing, fix them, not this one. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:50, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

If you want them fixed, you fix them. I have been modifying it this way for a couple of months now, after being told by other DOY users to do it this current way, and you are the first one to have a hissy fit. User:Eposty (talk) 16:53, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

I do not want them all fixed, I simply stated that if the other pages do not agree with MoSes, they should be fixed rather than applying the incorrect styles here just to be consistent. If you want grounds for fixing them, make sure you fix them correctly or don't break them the way you have.

Knowing and applying correct layout and formatting is what you call a hissy fit? Perhaps we could talk about the "They don't match! They don't match!" tantrum you just threw? After that, we can address your lack of use of edit summaries, and end up with talking about [{:Help:Talk pages#Indentation|which talk pages use bullets and which use colons]] for indenting discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:01, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Just curious, why did you only start worrying about the spacing only three or four days ago, even though you had edited many times before? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eposty (talk • contribs) 16:29, 19 August 2021 (UTC)