Talk:Auliʻi Cravalho

Hawaiian/American

Last time I checked, Hawaii was still one of the 50 states. Therefore, the subject is an American citizen. Any objections? Sro23 (talk) 05:01, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

That may be true. But she’s still a Hawaiian Actress.

BoxRox (talk) 12:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

No, she's an American actress, who was born in the state of Hawaii. As Casper Van Dien is an American actor, who was born in Florida. Unless you think that because Florida originally was a Spanish colony that he is Spanish. Or that since Florida was also a British colony, he is British. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 00:40, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Florida is in the Americas. Hawaii is in Oceania. She is a Hawaiian actress. Fact. BoxRox (talk) 08:23 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Puerto Rico is in the Atlantic. It is not one of the 50 states. However, people born there are American. Please check every other article about native Hawaiians or Puerto Ricans on Wikipedia and you will not find this distinction. An extremely good example is this one. Thank you. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 08:11, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

That still makes them Puerto Rican and Hawaiian. Yes Obama would be Hawaiian as well as American, even though he is not a Native Hawaiian. Also Puerto Rico (the Caribbean) is in the North American geographic region, while Hawaii is not and is in Polynesia/Oceania. Carrot9 | (talk) 10:23, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

You're missing the point here. Yes, Auli'i Cravalho does have some Native Hawaiian ancestry, but we primarily classify her as an American actress, singer, etc. Just as we primarily classify Obama as an American, not Hawaiian politician, and similarly George H. W. Bush as an American, not Massachusettsian politician, even though he was born in Massachusetts. Sro23 (talk) 03:40, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Actually she is primarily classified as a Hawaiian actress by both herself and the media because that is her promoted image and cultural heiratage. Those are not equivalent situations. If someone was a Hawaiian mayor then we would “primarily” classify them as a Hawaiian mayor. Carrot9 | (talk) 10:48, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

I have started a discussion on WP:BLPN. Sro23 (talk) 01:37, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

You can read the discussion here on the WP:BLPN--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 10:30, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Name

So, Auli’i Cravalho posted a tiktok revealing that her first name is Chloe. When I add that to the page, do I need a citation? Scp1206 (talk) 08:52, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Scp1206, yes, a source that meets our biography of living persons policy is required. Aoi (青い) (talk) 09:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

"Activist"

I reverted this edit in which a user wanted to add the descriptor "activist" to the first line of the lead sentence to the article (and the short description), with the edit summary "don't disagree that she is an activist, but there's currently nothing in the article to support this description and I couldn't find any reliable sources that expressly describe her as an activist in a quick search." The user re-inserted the edit and was reverted by ClueBot; the user then reinserted the edit again. I then left a note on the user's talk page asking if they could find a reliable source that describes Cravalho as an "activist." The user left this kind reply on my talk page with a link to this article. The article is entitled, "9 Young Celebrity Activists Reveal Their Inspiring Missions," and includes a short profile about Cravalho with a short quote about learning and fixing mistakes. Apparently Cravalho was part of an event called "WE Day California" in 2017, which "brought together students from across the state who carry out at least one local and global endeavor to make social impact throughout the year." While it's very inspiring, I don't think this source is strong enough to use to describe her as an "activist" in the lead sentence because (1) it's not a particularly strong source (WP:RS/PS indicates that "the reliability of Bustle is unclear"), (2) it describes a singular event, and (3) regardless of the one source, it's still doubtful to me whether "activism" is what Cravalho is most notable for.

In short, I don't doubt at all whether Cravalho is an activist – I just don't think there are enough reliable sources that can justify describing her as such in the first sentence of this article. I also would not be against using this source to describe her views elsewhere in the article--I just don't think it's lead-worthy. I'm wondering if any other editors had thoughts about this. Thanks, Aoi (青い) (talk) 00:11, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Joeyconnick removed the "activist" label and Glidenbader01 reverted for the third time. @Glidenbader01: please discuss your edit here instead of edit-warring. Much thanks, Aoi (青い) (talk) 04:46, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree with you Aoi and have reverted the user. A short paragraph in one magazine article isn't enough. Sro23 (talk) 04:51, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

audiobook narration

She also voiced an audio book. The Armies of Those I love from Ken Liu. It's available on Audible. Maybe one of you want to add that? Kind Regards 80.133.16.161 (talk) 20:24, 14 February 2023 (UTC)