Talk:Australia Day debate

Article name?

I suspect a more generic name for this article would be better fitting. Any thoughts/suggestions? thorpewilliam (talk) 10:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Independence day

Would be worth to mention that an independence day would be estabilished once Australia decides to break the sovereignty of the British monarch? 159.196.134.79 (talk) 10:15, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

No, because that is speculation. See WP:CRYSTALBALL. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:51, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Whose opinion do we include?

Anyone who has one?

I've just had a difference of opinion with another editor on this matter. We need some standards here. I don't think we should include minor people such as a city councillor. Nor should publicity seeking extremists get their views in the article. HiLo48 (talk) 10:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

I'll have to come back to this tomorrow, but after having a quick scan through the "Political responses" section, first impressions: get rid of anything that is not related to a government in power, major opposition figure, bill before parliament, or councils, except a brief mention of the one that led Morrison to the federal government depriving the councils of their powers to hold citizenship ceremonies, and perhaps just in one sentence mention a few councils who have opposed it (with refs but without details). Mention of Henry Pike's bill could be made with decent refs, such as Hansard (although I doubt it'll go anywhere), and PLEASE no bare URLs! Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

p.s. HiLo48 Postponed owing to busyness in real life. Maybe tomorrow (or longer), but also looking forward to hearing others' views on this. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:48, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

La lopi - Sorry, should have invited you here before. HiLo48 (talk) 22:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

I've shuffled and condensed the section. See what you think. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:12, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

That's good. In my view, there's probably still too much there, but I won't push for any further change now. Thanks. HiLo48 (talk) 10:46, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

No worries. I trimmed it a bit further, but until/unless there are more important things to add there, it's hard to know what else could be dropped. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 00:53, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Merchandise, Woolworths etc

Please see discussion at Talk:Australia_Day#Merchandise,_Woolworths_etc. Mitch Ames (talk) 00:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Resolved

 – [1] Mitch Ames (talk) 12:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Australia day public holiday - 1994?

The current article states that Australia Day has been a public holiday since 1994. However, the Australia Day Wikipedia page states that Australia Day on 26 January has been a public holiday since the 1940 - although it did vary between states due to the desire to have a long weekend. Uniformity was achieved in 1988. All of these points have references in the main Australia Day article. I don't see a reference for the 1994 date.

I think the reference to Australia Day commencing in 1994 needs to be changed. 163.53.144.99 (talk) 00:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

The Contemporary celebrations section of the Australia Day article says "in 1994 all states and territories began to celebrate a unified public holiday on 26 January – regardless of the day of the week – for the first time." It is sourced to the Australia Day official website - australiaday.com.au - but unfortunately that source doesn't seem to go into that level of detail about the dates. I suspect it may once have done so. I have now found a BBC source that says the same thing, and have added that to the article. HiLo48 (talk) 03:49, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

In the Australia Day article it states

"In 1988 the date was fixed in all jurisdictions on 26 January when the practice by some states of holding the holiday on a Friday in late January for a long weekend was dropped."

A reference to Australiaday.org.au is provided.

If I understand correctly, the Australia Day article and the Australia Day Debate article now appear to be inconsistent with each other - one says 1988 and the other says 1994. Or is there a nuance here that I haven't picked up on? 163.53.144.99 (talk) 09:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

That sentence in the Australia Day article was wrong. I have fixed it. HiLo48 (talk) 09:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)