Talk:Australia and the American Civil War

Query concerning introduction

The article says "It saw a difference in immigration in its economics and immigration" in the introduction, and that doesn't make sense to me. I am confused as to how a difference in immigration was in its immigration. Perhaps a re-wording might be needed? My apologies upfront if I am missing an obvious meaning to the sentence. Allventon (talk) 21:54, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Australia was formed in 1901

This needs to be made clear. There are many references to Australian authoraties. In 1860's there were none.

Russian attack orders

The source used for the Russian attack orders on Melbourne doubts their authenticity. This text seems to be written by a Russian Australian, who no doubt wants to promote Australian Russian friendship. I however consider them authentic. For reference I can give the attack orders given to the Atlantic squadron of Rear Admiral Lessovsky. The translation is mine. From the source:

On 14 (26 o.s.) July the manager of the sea ministry entrusted to Rear Admiral Lessovsky these secret instructions.

“ Instruction to the commanders of the vessels of the squadron leaving for the Atlantic Ocean, specifying the mission of the squadron:

On our way out through the Great Belt, we may come across the English or the French navy, stronger than ourselves, which with our appearance will change course and will follow us. Clearly, they intend to attack us, as soon as they receive information about the breakup [in diplomatic relations]. Then, at the first moment favorable to the circumstances, such as the onset of fog, I will give the signal for the ships to scatter, the squadron will then rendezvous in New York. Should circumstances permit, the frigate Alexander Nevsky, corvette Varyag should take to the right of the course, while the remaining three left, scattering under the vapors.

... Following our designated purpose, our ships will not engage unless I signal, which ultimately depends on the first gunshot of our new enemies.

4. If on the way to New York I get news of the breakup, then instead of proceeding to New York, the squadron upon my signal will disperse to the stations assigned to each vessel, namely,

• the frigate Alexander Nevsky English ships on the way, traveling from Liverpool to Nassau with various military supplies to the Confederate States of America
• frigate Peresvet in the way of vessels coming from England in the East Indies, between parallels 15 ° 30 ' latitude and 15 ° 30' longitude.
• Corvette Varyag in the way of vessels coming from England to South America, from cruise to the [illegible] of the equator;
• corvette Vityaz in the way of East India ships, coming from the Cape of Good Hope to the island of St. Helena.
• Clipper Almaz in the lane crossing the equator and 5 ° of latitude 20 ° 30 'longitude.

On spot, your course is for your consideration, based on your observations on the movement of trade.

5. Should you on the trip to New York be separated from the squadron, owing to any chances in weather, you should be guided by the previous instruction, i.e. to continue to New York if you do not learn about the breakup, or, if you learn about the declaration of war, go to your assigned cruising area.

”

Note: The instructions also state that the frigate Oslyabya is designated a cruising area around parallel 30 ° and the proximity of the meridian of Azore Islands.

Source

• A. V. Efimov (А. В. Ефимов) (1958). "Гражданская война в США и Россия". Очерки истории США. 1492-1870 гг (in (in Russian)). Moscow: Учпедгиз. Retrieved 2009-02-24. {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help)CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link)

-- Petri Krohn (talk) 01:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

(Tweaked translation: not South American states but the Confederate States of America. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 22:18, 16 August 2010 (UTC))

Book

Crompton, Barry J. 2008. Ireland, Australia and the American Civil War — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.146.102 (talk) 23:18, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

How many men and ships?

The article is about Australia and the ACW so why are the number of men from the Australian colonies and the Colony of New Zealand lumped together and why are they called citizens when most would have been British subjects. Does that number include those who joined the Shenandoah? The article says 42 joined in Melbourne whereas the main Shenandoah article states 40. The plural is used three times; ‘Confederate ships’ twice and ‘Confederate blockade runners occasionally obtained supplies there’. If more than one Confederate ship visited Australia what were their names and when did they visit? I would add to the phrase ‘Australia favoured the British model of government’ the words ‘just like the US’. Montesquieu’s De l'esprit des lois (The Spirit of the Laws) had a great influence on the US Constitution. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_of_the_Laws Anthony Staunton (talk) 10:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

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