Talk:Adaptive cruise control
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Incorrect
editI have been a professor of transportation engineering for 20 years now, and am considered an international expert in the AV arena. I have NEVER heard of anyone call ACC "autonomous" (cruise control). It's always been adaptive. And one sees this in the nice list of OEM ACC names provided. Can we please change this article's title? It's quite misleading to our students & others. Thank you!
This article is incorrect and provides ZERO sources.
- This is wiki, so what's your problem? Incorrect information and zero sources (or inaccurate ones) are the norm here. Wiki is a joke.
- The norm for ACC is ISO 15622:2010 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.67.188.170 (talk) 22:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- This is wiki, so what's your problem? Incorrect information and zero sources (or inaccurate ones) are the norm here. Wiki is a joke.
Was Mercedes first?
editThe german Wikipedia article says, that Nissan was the first to sell ACC in cars. Has somebody sources for this? --84.178.122.203 17:10, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Sections
editThere should be sections for each vehicle manifacturer like in the German Wikipedia acticle. It's much more readable then and more information like which version of ACC is in different vehicles and when it came out can be included without making it unreadable. --134.93.143.161 08:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you. I would like to go on an restructure the article this way. Any other opinions on this?Rotarucalin (talk) 20:28, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Specifications of different systems
editThere are huge differences between the implementations of ACC. There are systems that work only in a limited speed range, while others can work at almost any speed. Also there are systems that have emergency breaking features even when turned off. This information should be mentioned for the different cars. --84.178.67.155 (talk) 18:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ideally yes, but this article has limited views, and automatic braking is known as a precrash system, there is a topic for that.69.65.224.246 (talk) 04:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Readded useful section
editUseful material stays. Great fugo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC).
- I have removed this section. Having a section like this is of little use: it gets out of date very quickly, and before long most cars will have it available any way, so it becomes as useful as 'cars that have air bags' or 'cars that have brakes'.
- If you want to add this section back in, do us the courtesy of achieving a consensus on the talk page first, get some debate, pehaps put it to a vote.
- peterl (talk) 23:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- I readed it since it is useful, it gives manufacture names as well as introduction dates. If it becomes out of date then it will be updated. As of now it is hardly out of date and you are not justified removing information based on your predictions of future events, especially considering you have yet to make a single edit of any value to the article. Great fugo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC).
This 'useful section' discussion is not very useful, as it is not at all clear which is the section you are discussing. Centrepull (talk) 04:14, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I love the smell of edit wars in the morning... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.66.32 (talk) 09:32, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
I think removing sections is the thing that really needs consensus, not adding them back in. At this stage, when more cars do not have it than do, it is interesting and useful information. At least I try (talk) 04:58, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
BMW model year 2014
editI believe all 2014 bmw sedan models have full speed ("stop & go") "automatic" cruise control as, at a minimum, an option in 2014. Not all coups/convertibles do though. I don't believe it is tied to engine size in any way.-jss (talk) 01:39, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Needs 3 types
editFull speed range ACC & Partial cruise control aren't good enough. Hyundai's will bring you to 0mph but then you have to hit the gas to re-engage. Some Mercedes and BMW's I think will do 0mph and then they will continue on their own for gridlock traffic.
I would suggest: ACC stop & go, ACC stop, & ACC Partial
I added the F150 as I think it is the first pickup to have adaptive cruise. But I screwed up the formatting.
Adaptive cruise control?
editThe table at the bottom of the article mentions "Adaptive cruise control," but this is not defined anywhere in the article. Should that title be changed to "autonomous cruise control"? Additionally, should the aftermarket device at the top of that table be removed, since it does not fit the lead's definition of following a set distance from the car in front?
While we're discussing this list, I think it should be split off from the article entirely. We don't usually put long lists into articles, but rather would put them in a list-class article like "List of vehicles with autonomous cruise control". Mamyles (talk) 04:00, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
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ISO 15622:2010
editAccording to ISO, «ISO 15622:2010 contains the basic control strategy, minimum functionality requirements, basic driver interface elements, minimum requirements for diagnostics and reaction to failure, and performance test procedures for Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) systems.»
I would like to suggest the add of this standard in some part of the Article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.67.188.170 (talk) 22:32, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Rename to "adaptive cruise control"
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) –Ammarpad (talk) 05:19, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Autonomous cruise control system → Adaptive cruise control – Please rename this article to adaptive cruise control. It is the terminology used in ISO 15622, and I have yet to meet anyone in the automotive industry who uses the word "autonomous" in this context. For an idea of common usage, a google search of "autonomous cruise control" returns 24,600 results, whereas "adaptive cruise control" returns 7,810,000 (7.8 million) results. Ewaladel (talk) 17:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Izno (talk) 03:07, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Admin, please make the requested change. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 01:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- I have submitted a requested move on your behalves. --Izno (talk) 02:40, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm happy to do this as soon as it's clear there is no opposition. It seems uncontroversial, but it's been at the current title for a long time. Guy (Help!) 08:11, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support per WP:Concise. Rreagan007 (talk) 00:25, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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Types and examples
editI recently did some research, and added a little bit more information on the different types of ACC. I went more into detail about how they work and the different applications for each type. I also went and added a super simple example of what acc looks like in cars today, and some rough pricing of so that someone who is trying to determine if it is something they want to look into has a very clear idea of what it will look like when they use it. Tarmpf (talk) 20:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)