Talk:Avenged Sevenfold/Archive 3

Archive 1

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Archive 3

Edit request: Aftermath section (1.4.1.1.) and others

Would somebody with the rights to do so, please edit the Aftermath section (1.4.1.1.). It is ridiculously out of date mentioning several "recent" interviews which were given prior to Nightmare's appearance half a year ago. Also while there might be some emotional value to the section it features almost no information worthy of a decent Wikipedia entry. I would suggest shrinking the whole section to about three sentences, summing up that the album appeared on July 27 and that The Rev played a significant part in the writing process (footnote 51 & 52 could be added here). That Mike Portnoy played drums and toured with the band, but that he and the band have since announced their parting and that the band are now looking for a new drummer for a trial in 2011. Even so some of the parts would still restate what is written above in the Nightmares section. A solution would be to move the section up and change it to The Death of the Rev and Aftermath. The Death of the Rev section would also benefit from some editing (shortening), as would the Nightmares section, in my opinion it is irrelevant when exactly recording, mixing etc. were completed considering the album has been out for half a year, and it is even more irrelevant whether Zacky Vengeance thinks that "[t]here are no words that will ever describe the feeling of listening to this album while driving home alone at 4 am," of course he would, since he would say something like that considering he's trying to promote the album and keep the fans happy while they are waiting for the thing to finally appear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wonderdwarf (talk • contribs) 05:19, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Tkmaster17, 26 January 2011

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Requesting edit to members. Avenged Sevenfold has a new drummer named Arin Ilejay. http://www.avengedsevenfold.com/news/message-avenged-sevenfold

Tkmaster17 (talk) 20:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 08:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Crts69, 10 February 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Wrong genre.

Crts69 (talk) 08:37, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid you'll need to be more specific than that if you want the article changed. You're welcome to name a reliable source that says the genre is something else. Please see the section titled Musical style and influences for some discussion of how this band's style has changed over time. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 12:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Edit request from StarryEyedFan, 21 April 2011

The article states that Avenged Sevenfold won awards on April 20 at the Golden Gods Awards sponsored by Metal Hammer. The Golden Gods Awards are sponsored by the American magazine Revolver, not the British magazine Metal Hammer; the awards show is usually referred to as the Revolver Golden Gods Awards.

StarryEyedFan (talk) 02:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request form StarryEyedFan, 21 April 2011

The article states that Avenged Sevenfold won awards on April 2011 at the Golden Gods Awards sponsored by Metal Hammer. The Golden Gods Awards are put on by the American magazine Revolver, not the British magazine Metal Hammer; the awards show is usually referred to as the Revolver Golden Gods Awards. The awards show took place on April 20, 2011. This can be verified on Revolver magazine's website. StarryEyedFan (talk) 02:43, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

edgefest

on april 23 2011 headlined edgefest at the little rock state fair grounds along with skillet, stone sour, helmet, art of dying, my darkest day, halestorm, dark from day one, sevendust, seether, theory of a deadman, and three days grace for a crowd of over 20,000 fans —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.68.225.195 (talk) 16:13, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 112.200.237.122, 1 May 2011

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Due to the new avenged sevenfold drummer Mike portnoy is now an A7X official may I please edit the page so that I can help on getting infos on them :D Thanks and Godbless :D

112.200.237.122 (talk) 08:46, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Please Explain what you want done and we will do it for your. If you want to, why not create an account and make 10 edits and you account is 4 days old on other pages and then you can come edit this pageHardy Heck (talk) 19:52, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request

The first reference is no longer a valid website. http://www.skratchmagazine.com/interviews/INTavengedsevenfold.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.53.128.173 (talk) 09:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request - A7X site has a countdown timer with the words "SO FAR AWAY" probably leading to the songs release and video. proof --> http://www.avengedsevenfold.com/splash/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.241.50 (talk) 23:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Clean up

Hi. I saw the clean up tag and did my best to clear up all the issues that probably let to it. I still feel the intro is a bit long but I tried to make it more general and in the proper Wiki style. I also put in more sources and hopefully improved the article. I've got some time to do more edits so if anyone that doesn't have access sees something they'd like changed, let me know and I will do my best.Ctscan (talk) 20:30, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Rock, not metal?

Why is the opening line of the article say that Avenged Sevenfold is a rock band and not a metal band? It's frequently referred to as a metal band, and their music definitely sounds more metal than rock. Even the genre section won't say they're anything less than at least hard rock. So why aren't we calling them metal? Other people on the internet have referenced Wikipedia saying, "It isn't a METAL band because Wikipedia says in the very first line it's a ROCK band." I really think we ought to change this. NERVUN (talk) 06:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

• A7X is definitely a metal band! Brongronning (talk) 18:04, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Reference No. 7

Just thought I'd point out that this website ('Skratch Magazine') no longer exists. Someone might want to re-reference that 81.156.74.199 (talk) 15:13, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Remove the (early) in Metalcore genre

I think that the (early) at Infobox in Metalcore can be removed. The single Not Ready To Die represents the new album, and this single have metalcore. This excluded the song from Nightmare God Hates Us, that's pure metalcore. I propose to remove the early, and let the Metalcore as the third genre. MetalBrasil (talk) 17:01, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

No Response, so I will to remove by myself. MetalBrasil (talk) 14:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Avenged calls themselves Metalcore, Heavy fucking Metal.... In shows... so... They are Metalcore and, also, Heavy Metal--Brunohbrassard (talk) 21:28, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

So Far Away

Can someone explain the true meaning of the song 'so far away'. I think it's in reference to the member that passed away.Send your responses to my address at monkeygirlfordzx2@yahoo.com Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.52.94 (talk) 14:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Melodic metalcore? The first genre listed?

That applies to: First two albums One song off of Nightmare One new single Two albums and almost all of another aren't Metalcore

It's the first genre HOW? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.243.160 (talk) 17:16, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Small typo, but this page is locked

It spells behavior in the British fashion (with a u) when quoting M. Shadows in the new album section. He's not British, so shouldn't it be the American way?

Also, isn't Mike Portnoy in the band now? He isn't listed. Actually, Arin Ilejay is the drummer, Mike Portnoy was just there for the recording of Nightmare and the tour afterwards.

You just answered yourself didn't you? Mrlittleirish 15:02, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

diamonds in the rough?

what about the diamonds in the rough cd its got a couple of the best songs on it like dancing dead and walk cover — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.220.26.232 (talk) 19:55, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

wut — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.201.143.68 (talk) 04:25, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

My take of it is that it's not an official studio album. It's a bonus collection of b-sides that was released with Live in the LBC. 198.111.56.66 (talk) 22:47, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Genre

A7X said they are a hard rock band, not heavy metal. They have metal influences like Pantera. But only their first two albums are metalcore, after that they changed to hard rock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican (talk • contribs) 01:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Wrong. A7x has stated they have no genre, but rather play anything their hearts tell them to. They do not have a specific genre, and are definately not heavy metal, nor are they hard rock. Most of their songs are too soft anyways. --98.145.149.105 (talk) 23:50, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Awards

For accolades there should be for 2006, Nominated Work: Bat Country; Award: VMA: Best New Artist In A Video; Result: Won.

Bucsfan78000 (talk) 17:48, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

And synyter gates won the "young shredder award" for his EPIC guitar playing in avenged sevenfold — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.124.199 (talk) 13:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Genre

A7X said they are a hard rock band, not heavy metal. They have metal influences like Pantera. But only their first two albums are metalcore, after that they changed to hard rock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican (talk • contribs) 01:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Wrong. A7x has stated they have no genre, but rather play anything their hearts tell them to. They do not have a specific genre, and are definately not heavy metal, nor are they hard rock. Most of their songs are too soft anyways. --98.145.149.105 (talk) 23:50, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Awards

For accolades there should be for 2006, Nominated Work: Bat Country; Award: VMA: Best New Artist In A Video; Result: Won.

Bucsfan78000 (talk) 17:48, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

And synyter gates won the "young shredder award" for his EPIC guitar playing in avenged sevenfold — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.124.199 (talk) 13:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

a7x real genres

A7X is hard rock with a heavy metal influenced sound. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican (talk • contribs) 03:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

You are no more of an expert than anyone else here. Genres are by consensus. Still, at least you brought it to talk - many others don't - so props to you for that.

Edit- Nevermind, I see that you added sources with it... good enough for me--L1A1 FAL (talk) 03:50, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

timeline

the time line is incorrect, syn wasnt recruited until after sounding the seventh trumpet was released. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.126.189 (talk) 07:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

You will need to provide a source for that before we can make any changes. Mrlittleirish 09:44, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 May 2012 for Avenged Sevenfold accolades

Avenged Sevenfold won an MTV award in 2006 for "Best New Artist in a Video".

SurestRougeODST (talk) 23:49, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for that?--L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:14, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. When you have found a source, you can activate the template by changing the |answered= parameter from yes to no. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 05:04, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 May 2012

For the page on Avenged Sevenfold, there is an update to their Accolades, or awards if you will. At the Golden God's of Rock awards 2012, Avenged Sevenfold won for Best Live band and Most dedicated fans. I am a huge fan of Avenged Sevenfold and it would be great if the list of awards they won could be updated. Thanks!

Here is a link the the site announcing thw winners Jbthegiant (talk) 11:52, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please read the above box to find out the reason why, then correct the request below this line, and post a message here. Thanks Mdann52 (talk) 15:52, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 5 June 2012

Avenged Sevenfold also won Revolver Golden Gods Awards in 2012, for 'Best Live Band' and 'Most Dedicated Fans' http://www.deathbatnews.com/ LozziePopxX (talk) 13:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Can't find anything on that page Mdann52 (talk) 15:45, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I've added this information to the article, with a reliable resource. The1337gamer (talk) 16:37, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 June 2012

Johnny Christ and Synyster Gates joined the band in 1999, no later. Please change this to them joining in 1999 because that is the correct date. Johnny Christ even said himself in one video that M. Shadows let him join in "'99" and you can hear this in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQAIHni4Aw&feature=relmfu at around 5:00 minutes.

FrerardFrerardFrerard (talk) 15:39, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Please provide a secondary source.  TOW  talk  16:35, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Synyster Gates joined the band after Sounding the Seventh Trumpet. It's in the All Excess DVD 96.247.190.179 (talk) 02:53, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Metalcore

Could somebody please add a small "(early)" next to metalcore under genres? A7X don't play metalcore as of City of Evil.--Mrpemdasrescuereturns (talk) 08:34, 2 July 2012 (UTC) No, we don't add things like "early" or "later" to infoboxes. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 04:33, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Associated Acts

Avenged Sevenfold is listed as an associated act on Good Charlotte's profile. With that established, Good Charlotte should be listed as such on Avenged Sevenfold's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.73.254 (talk) 00:26, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Rock band

I really would think it would be useful if we introduce them as a rock band because you must look at the style and influences and look at the bottom. It is sourced reliably and if we introduce them as heavy metal then we could get an edit war. It can happen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CosmicSea1991 (talk • contribs) 21:07, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

De Wikipedia

At the beginning of the article can be read "De Wikipedia" this is obviously an editing error. --Gusama Romero (talk) 06:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I can't see it. Can you elaborate? Which browser and skin are you using?--Commander Keane (talk) 06:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

wrong accoldates

avenged sevenfold's song "carry on" won the 2013 golden gods award. here is proof http://www.revolvermag.com/goldengods2013/?p=73 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FBfilmsdaily (talk • contribs) 21:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Avenged Sevenfold between 2010 and 2011 - Heavy MTL

In the section for the album Nightmare 2010-2011 is missing some information.

On Sunday, July 25th, 2010, Avenged Sevenfold played at Heavy MTL (a Montreal Heavy Metal festival). It was their first show/stage appearance since the death of their drummer, The Rev. Hence, it was the first show without him.

Toxicoid (talk) 20:07, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

First album's bassist

I thought the bassist that played on the first album was Justin Sane, not Dameon Ash as the timeline states, just pointing it out. --Feargm (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

In two different places (Band Members > Former Members, as well as the box at the bottom of the article) "Justin Sane" links to the wikipedia page for the wrong person. Justin Sane from Avenged Sevenfold is not the same Justin Sane that is in Anti-Flag. (20:55, 22 June, 2013) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.32.37.170 (talk) 01:30, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

The section for the bands first album contains the words "In the mid-2001, former bassist Justin Sane was reported that he had a suicide attempt performed[11] by drinking excessive amounts of cough syrup.[12]" This is tortuous grammar and makes no sense. I wanted to copy-edit but the article is protected. Is it possible that someone with access can make this readable. I would suggest the sentence should read "In mid-2001 former bassist Justin Sane reported that he had attempted suicide by drinking excessive amounts of cough syrup". 217.34.42.53 (talk) 15:46, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

new events and lead

I added an event that the band spoke about the direction of the new album. So I added the quote and citation. I also think that it's best to introduce them as a rock band, neither hard rock or heavy metal, not metalcore at all. But since they are considered either hard rock or metal, it's kinda like GNR or something. Even music stations have them on rock than on the metal section, even if the band made a metal song though, but since they play a lot of hard rock to, and metal is subgenre of rock, i decided it's okay to just say a rock band. The band may have got it's genre disputed if it says so in the genre section but the band have been known widely to be hard rock as well as metal. But introducing them as hard rock isn't good either since they also will be tagged a lot as metal. So i like the term rock. But I want to add a little better summary in it. Such as more specific details and certain stuff. I do remember i forgot to add the quote so i'm gonna get to that now.9Greenday4 (talk) 22:36, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Wrong Justin Sane

In the band members section, someone needs to remove the link on Justin Sane. This Justin Sane's real name is Justin Meacham, the former bassist for Suburban Legends. The Justin Sane who's page is linked to here is the lead guitarist & singer/songwriter of Anti-Flag, and was never involved with Avenged Sevenfold as he has been with Anti-Flag since their formation in 1988. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benisawesome23 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. -- ferret (talk) 15:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 July 2013

"More heavier" should read "more heavy" when talking about the track 'God Hates Us'. Alicksryte (talk) 22:05, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I changed it to "heavier". Hope that's all right. Rivertorch (talk) 05:34, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Rivertorch,that's fine-and actually makes better sense than my own suggestion! Alicksryte (talk) 14:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Previous Members edit

Mike Portnoy man, he isn't listed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.214.173.131 (talk) 19:27, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Genre

At the beginning of this article is the following statement:

    Avenged Sevenfold (sometimes abbreviated as A7X) are an American heavy metal band

I must ask you to change it, thay are nor and never were a METAL bandwhat they do doesn't classify as Heavy Metal, this is even a negation of the definition of this term on wikipedia. The most appropriate definition for them is metalcore.

If they could be classified metal band, they would have an entry in Metal Archives for a long time, but they have not, which means that even metal fans don't accept them as metal band.

SF01 178.43.114.32 (talk) 20:28, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

The picture

The picture should be updated to a newer one either with Arin in it or just the DeathBat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.202.152.65 (talk) 00:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

power metal

surely avenged sevenfold were power metal on city of evil and maybe even their self titled album? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luock (talk • contribs) 16:44, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 October 2013

please change 'avenged sevenfold is an American rock band' to 'avenged sevenfold is an American heavy metal band'

117.207.227.118 (talk) 02:40, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Not done: The infobox lists a wider range of genres, and this source, for example, lists punk as well as metal. So perhaps the broader rock genre is the best to mention. --Stfg (talk) 15:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, since the band started in Metalcore, and has continued onwards as primarily a metal/punk band, I see no problem with at least the specification of Metal, eventhough it should be specified as Heavy Metal. Noting the extreme difference between Rock, Metal, and Heavy Metal. With this in mind, I'm going to change the article to reflect this, until somebody provides sufficient proof otherwise. Sleegi^[✆Talk] 04:24, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Synyster Gates wasn't in the band in 1999

He didn't join the band until after Sounding The Seventh Trumpet was released and I'm sorry to whoever edited it that way, but its irritating me and I made this account just to fix this so please fix it. It states that he didn't join until after in All Excess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MorbidGrim (talk • contribs) 20:40, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Mike Portnoy "ex-Dream Theater" status

re: this sentence

"on February 17, 2010, Avenged Sevenfold stated that they had entered the studio, along with now-former Dream Theater drummer Mike Portnoy, to drum for the album, in place of The Rev."

Actually Portnoy hadn't yet left Dream Theater at that point, this happened later in the year.

I suggest amending this later sentence as follows :

"After finishing recording, in December, Portnoy (who in the meantime had left Dream Theater) and the band posted simultaneous statements on their websites stating that he would not be their replacement for The Rev." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.95.224.53 (talk) 22:19, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2014

Avenged Sevenfold are releasing a special 10th anniversary edition of their album Waking The Fallen that isn't on their Wikipedia page yet. Please list the album in the Discography section and add the following paragraph to History section:

Waking The Fallen: Resurrected (2014-present)

Avenged Sevenfold will be releasing Waking The Fallen: Resurrected on August 26, 2014 via Hopeless Records. The 10-year anniversary album was personally curated by the band and the 3-disc set offers a rare, never before seen look at Waking The Fallen. It includes the full, original album in addition to 11 previously unreleased b-sides, live and alternative versions of songs, new artwork, the original first cut of the music video for "Unholy Confessions," and a 30 minute documentary in which they talk about the recording of the album and that stage of their career. It also includes previously unreleased live footage of some of their earliest shows and a new, live video for "Chapter Four."

76.79.251.226 (talk) 23:05, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, and it needs to sound less like a promotional press-release. - Arjayay (talk) 15:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

rock band?

Isn't A7X considered a heavy metal band? 213.26.205.145 (talk) 13:38, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2014

180.244.13.80 (talk) 06:03, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

• Note Above request redacted due to being an entire dump of the article. Request was to change the members. See the revision history. Stickee (talk) 07:37, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Some of those members I couldn't find being members of the band. Stickee (talk) 07:36, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Avenged Sevenfold

Redacted. 36.71.182.58 (talk) 00:50, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. I've redacted the edit request, which was a dump of the entire article. Unsure the exact change desired. Please list exactly what you want changed. -- ferret (talk) 00:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

References

The citations on this page is quite a mess, will try and tackle it. If someone is aware of a career-spanning feature/interview then that would be helpful.Karst (talk) 20:09, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Use [[1]] Karst (talk) 23:26, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2014

Timeline

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.165.72.29 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 25 November 2014‎ (UTC)

Not done: This simply isn't accurate and has removed numerous previous members. -- ferret (talk) 03:18, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Avenged Sevenfold is not emo

It says that they are described previously as emo, but they never were an emo band. They were a metalcore band. People who did say that don't know what emo is. Plus, here's a proof that they were never an emo band. This page will tell you if a band is emo or not. See for yourself; http://isthisbandemo.com/?band=Avenged+Sevenfold — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karpizzle (talk • contribs) 21:28, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

The statement clearly has sources, so. -- ferret (talk) 21:35, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Stop vandalizing the page! They are not an emo band. They played metalcore and are now a hard rock/heavy metal band, who has experimented with other genres such as Symphonic metal, Avante-garde metal, speed metal and Thrash metal. 99.108.198.222 (talk) 19:05, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2015

Former members

• The Rev – drums, backing vocals (1999–2009)
• Matt Wendt – bass, backing vocals (1999–2000)
• Justin Sane – bass, backing vocals (2000–2001)
• Dameon Ash – bass, backing vocals (2001–2002)

Please edit it to show that The Rev not only played drums and did backing vocals, but he also played piano for Avenged Sevenfold. Ajfreeman92 (talk) 08:00, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamietw (talk) 18:16, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Discography

The Discography on the main page is showing only their in studio albums and does not even acknowledge the Diamonds in the Rough Album.

This is a full studio album as well. It was just bundled with their "Live in the LBC" concert and is now shown as a "Live Album" on the actual Avenged Sevenfold Discography Wiki Page.

Please update the page to show that Diamonds in the Rough is an actual album as well. It is misleading when someone is checking the albums and it shows all but one of their albums. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.250.126.186 (talk) 09:57, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

It's referred to as a B-Sides album in reliable sources, not as an official studio release. -- ferret (talk) 13:34, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Avenged Sevenfold but Jazz?

I was reading on Wikipedia's article about the Romanian metalcore band Goodbye to Gravity and Colectiv nightclub fire incident which was killed four of five members from Goodbye to Gravity.

Avenged Sevenfold's early career was metalcore and it is can be found on their debut album. Avenged Sevenfold, however, change their style for the first time from metalcore to hard rock/heavy metal style with their self-titled album (including "Dear God", "Almost Easy", and "Scream").

At the time, I was dreaming that Avenged Sevenfold change their style again for the second time from hard rock/heavy metal style to more pop-oriented style with their upcoming album. I was listen to "Dear God" (a country-rock song from the album Avenged Sevenfold) in my dream with original recording.

I was dreaming that Avenged Sevenfold re-recorded "Dear God" with jazz style and not include any electric guitar-based hard rock/heavy metal style. In the new recording of "Dear God" the following members that re-recorded the song: M. Shadows (lead vocals), Zacky Vengeance (piano), Synyster Gates (saxophone), Johnny Christ (bass guitar), and Brooks Wackerman (percussion).

In the coda section, the original recording of the song is guitar solo, but the new recording of the song more length and not ended faded-out with extended saxophone solo played by Synyster Gates. The saxophone melody on the new recording is similar to the original guitar solo melody.

I don't know if this recording including piano and local Philharmonic Orchestra, but Avenged Sevenfold will retired completely from hard rock/heavy metal style because they fear Goodbye to Gravity's incident.

If you connect with Avenged Sevenfold, the following social media that addressed to Avenged Sevenfold:

• Website, the official Avenged Sevenfold website
• Facebook, the official Avenged Sevenfold Facebook page
• Twitter, the official Avenged Sevenfold Twitter page

Other site that appears with Avenged Sevenfold:

• Avenged Sevenfold on 100 XR
• Avenged Sevenfold on Last.fm
• Avenged Sevenfold on Contact Music

Thanks. Wisnu Aji (talk) 03:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2016

Metallica3124 (talk) 01:25, 11 January 2016 (UTC) add progressive metal to the genre list. This band falls under that category due to their use of time signature changes, complex melodies layered with harmonies, and long epic jams!

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- ferret (talk) 01:35, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

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Genre

I suppose it's that time again. There appears to be an ongoing back and forth genre war again over "heavy metal", which was in place until June 28th, and "rock band". The archive is FULL of sections on this topic with no real clear consensus that I can see. It just flares up periodically. Could we please pause in making changes on this and try to come to a reliably source-backed consensus first? Pinging @Metalac1406 and Statik N. -- ferret (talk) 18:44, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2017

From the article: " Nightmare contains further deviations, including a piano ballad called "Fiction", progressive metal-oriented track "Save Me" and a heavy metal sound with extreme vocals and heavier instrumentation on "God Hates Us" and "Not Ready to Die". That is inaccurate, as the song Not Ready to Die does not belong in the Nightmare album but is a single created for Call of duty: Black ops, so should be corrected 2A01:388:2E9:150:0:0:1:27 (talk) 01:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Done -- ferret (talk) 01:37, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

See also

Avenged sevenfold have also had a lot of limited edition merch including their very own Scuf gaming controller limited to 2000 on PS4 and Xbox one along with a special stage tour poster costing £65GbP MusicalWiki (talk) 02:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2017

'The Stage' received generally favorable reviews, not 'universal acclaim' (a quick check on Metacritic or a sample of reviews will support this). 88.163.60.69 (talk) 08:57, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 13:23, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

 Done Per Metacritic, and the main article The Stage (album). Clearly did not have universal acclaim, which fails WP:V. @Jd02022092: As info. -- ferret (talk) 13:59, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Why was the bassist removed?

Why was the basist removed from the box? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:4C7:D860:512A:8008:89C0:364B (talk) 22:02, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. Looks like it was removed by accident while someone was doing some cleanup. -- ferret (talk) 22:04, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Zacky Vengeance and Johnny Christ removed from Wiki???

They are equally as important as the other members who still have their pages. Don't forget to mention their Grammy nomination. This is a HUGE thing for them.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.224.95.7 (talk) 21:43, 8 December 2017‎ (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zacky Vengeance and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johnny Christ. Unless they are individually nominated for their role in the band, versus the band being nominated, that does not help their individual notability. -- ferret (talk) 21:58, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Merge proposal

I began a discussion recently suggesting that bands should only have members subpages if they have had large numbers of line-up changes. I don't believe that having a members subpage for this band is necessary, as there are only five former members and one session/touring member, a lot of the information there can already be found at the main article, and Wikipedia is not a dictionary. 4TheWynne^{(talk)(contribs)} 12:25, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

• Merge I've almost done it myself several times. I love Avenged Sevenfold, big part of my music listening for many years, but they don't have enough separate content to warrant a separate list with table and profile pictures and all that jazz. Only one former member is of true notability as well. -- ferret (talk) 14:17, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Guitar Roles

Hey I was just wondering if we could change Synyster Gates to "lead guitar" on the timeline and Zacky to "rhythm guitar as that is clearly what they play roughly 90% of the time, Zacky does do acoustic guitar as well on at least one song per album. Occasionally live the guitarists have alternated roles, but on the albums Syn performs lead and Zacky rhythm. Please note that I am not doing this to slight anyone who may have disagreements, I am just stating this to get it off my chest, and I would love to hear from other users and admins on this issue, thanks.--Miked1992 (talk) 23:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)Miked1992--Miked1992 (talk) 23:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Personally, am not sure why this keeps getting reverted. Sourcing supports it. -- ferret (talk) 23:26, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

True that, studio, live and sports evidence clearly supports our claim, with all due respect to 4TheWynne, I personally do not like someone trying to play god and revert the article to their liking when they are not even an admin--Miked1992 (talk) 00:16, 17 March 2018 (UTC)Miked1992--Miked1992 (talk) 00:16, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Prog metal

Honestly, progressive metal shouldn't be in the genres list. We could do progressive metal (recent) if that's allowed. But it just saying progressive metal isn't good. Suicide Silence's genre field only says deathcore. It doesn't say nu metal at all and Suicide Silence's self-titled album is sourced as nu metal. Only Avenged Sevenfold's album The Stage is sourced as prog metal both in the album article and the band's article. Statik N (talk) 21:34, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

When the genre was first added, editors used the argument that Bring Me the Horizon's page has been updated to present the styles that were only present on their latest release. I'd call on the editor who first put this in place Metalac1406 but it appears he's been blocked. Issan Sumisu (talk) 08:29, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

The reason it happened with BMTH is because that stylistic change was extremely stark. This is admittedly less so, but they had been hinting at being progressive for a lot longer than the full-blown The Stage was. Personally, I like prog being in the infobox. Not as prominently as it is, though; would suggest moving heavy metal in front of it and having prog metal be the third genre. dannymusiceditor ^oops 01:05, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Bring Me the Horizon already now have 2 or more than 2 albums that aren't metalcore/deathcore. So BMTH's genre field doesn't need to be simply only metalcore. Suicide Silence released an album with nu metal as the sourced genre and Suicide Silence's genre list still is only deathcore. Prog metal is a subgenre of metal. So we should remove prog metal because it's only 1 album by Avenged Sevenfold. Prog metal is a metal subgenre so thus that means the term heavy metal already is covering all their music even the album The Stage. Statik N (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

The Bring Me the Horizon statement isn't even true, Statik. It's just That's the Spirit. A turn from full-on metalcore to alt rock is probably a good sign to change the band's infobox. The point I'm trying to make is that even though The Stage is the only full length that can legitimately be called prog metal before, this isn't the first time they've done it. Hell, they even had Dream Theater's drummer play for them on Nightmare. dannymusiceditor ^oops 03:07, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Nightmare wasn't prog metal. Portnoy being on the album doesn't make it more progressive. City of Evil isn't prog metal neither the self-titled or first 2 albums. If Avenged Sevenfold make another prog metal album, we can add prog metal. Prog metal is a subgenre of metal and metal is on the list anyway. Statik N (talk) 04:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

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Inconsistency of Gates' Joining

In the history section is says that Synyster Gates joined just after the release of Sounding the Seventh Trumpet, while on the timeline it shows him as joining just prior to it. I'm not sure which is true but there should probably be some consistency between the two. Issan Sumisu (talk) 13:15, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

The problem is that the actual release date of STST isn't clear. Syn joined at least before March, because they filmed the music video for WotS that month and he appears in it. In All Excess, he says "thanks for letting me join you in 1999", which means that the earliest date he joined would be late November or December (after the band had finished recording STST). Plus, they recorded the WotS EP in February, which makes it likely that he was in the band at that time already (which is the reason for the current timeline date). Seelentau (talk) 14:13, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Scratch that, I confused the dates and I have no clue why he said he joined them in 1999. Seelentau (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 Aug 2019

In the final sentence of the lede paragraph, please change "Avenged Sevenfold have released an original song for each game in the Call of Duty: Black Ops series." to "Avenged Sevenfold has released an original song for each game in the Call of Duty: Black Ops series." 2601:644:877F:F6D8:9844:DFBC:DC9F:A326 (talk) 23:05, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Avenged Sevenfold's Demo in Early 2000

Avenged Sevenfold's demo material in early 2000 was recorded at Los Angeles based recording studio, A-Room Studios. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cait815 (talk • contribs) 03:14, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

How do you know this? Seelentau (talk) 23:20, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2020

Add page link to Johnny Christ. Becca300610 (talk) 01:02, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: Johnny Christ is not independently notable and redirects back to this article. -- ferret (talk) 01:24, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Rock vs Heavy Metal

Avenged Sevenfold is classified more as rock than heavy metal. Aceusa (talk) 03:54, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is based on WP:SECONDARY sources. We summarize for the reader what has been published about the topic. You can discuss the various published sources and weigh them for importance, but your own personal analysis doesn't have any leverage. Binksternet (talk) 07:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Band makers

Who made the band?? 2603:6011:642:1CC1:7431:6D99:7A4F:71A3 (talk) 16:08, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Matthew Sanders, Jimmy Sullivan, and Zachary Baker created the band initially during their time at Huntington Beach Highschool. 2600:1700:51A1:8130:E9F7:6DAD:D030:1C65 (talk) 19:40, 25 March 2023 (UTC)