Talk:Axis occupation of Greece/Archive 2
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Alexikoua in topic Verification needed
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The Holocaust into three subsections?
Proposal : German zone, Bulgarian zone, Italian zone, each treated separately as the policies were separate (the Italians actually helped Jews in some cases). German takeover of the Italian zone handled in the Italian zone section. Any objections?
Also, I'm lacking sources for details on the Bulg zone -- Jingiby any help? Thanks guys, --Calthinus (talk) 03:50, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Paul Isaac Hagouel, The Annihilation of Jewish Greeks in Eastern Macedonia and Thrace. Check also: Rescue of the Bulgarian Jews. Regards. Jingiby (talk) 04:18, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yea I'd heard of the latter -- my understanding is that it largely didn't apply in Bulg-occupied Greece. And thanks--Calthinus (talk) 04:31, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Detailed information about anti-Jewish legislation is found here [[1]] (p. 143-147).Alexikoua (talk) 21:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- There is also this [[2]] in 11_3_1984.pdf (p. 51-53), with details about the deportation.Alexikoua (talk) 21:41, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Calthinus: Yes it's a good proposal, I fully agree.Alexikoua (talk) 21:20, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Great and thanks for the sources Alexi! --Calthinus (talk) 05:10, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- I believe that Angelos Evert should have a place in this article.Alexikoua (talk) 20:36, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Alexikoua I agree, Angelos Evert deserves mention. In case this gets long (sources are accumulating), I'm thinking of splitting it into a new article: The Holocaust in Greece (somehow this doesn't exist already -- the current link is a redirect). As weary as I am of adding to my already overflowing to-do list haha. As for this article I'll be gradually adding stuff here to the Holocaust section over the next few weeks as I have real life matters to attend to and two other pages I'm working on simultaneously, but I'd be very down to collab for that new article in the future if you're interested. --Calthinus (talk) 13:32, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Didn't notice that this such article doesn't exist. I'm going to search for additional bibliography (just found some interesting papers about Jewish participation in the resistance).Alexikoua (talk) 18:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- I did notice that the The Holocaust in Greece doesn't exist, already for a very long time. It is one of the problems that plague the English Wikipedia: Events related to the Jews that occured in Greece, didn't get as much attention in the English Wikipedia as those that occured in other parts of Europe. I think it is time that we finally correct this.
- Another problem I found is that while the Greek Museum of Holocaust has an article in the Greek Wikipedia already, there is no article about it in the English Wikipedia. Here is link to the Museum of Holocaust (located in Thessalonica) in the Greek Wikipedia, albeit undeveloped: [3] --👧🏻 SilentResident 👧🏻 (talk ✉️ | contribs 📝) 12:13, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Didn't notice that this such article doesn't exist. I'm going to search for additional bibliography (just found some interesting papers about Jewish participation in the resistance).Alexikoua (talk) 18:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Alexikoua I agree, Angelos Evert deserves mention. In case this gets long (sources are accumulating), I'm thinking of splitting it into a new article: The Holocaust in Greece (somehow this doesn't exist already -- the current link is a redirect). As weary as I am of adding to my already overflowing to-do list haha. As for this article I'll be gradually adding stuff here to the Holocaust section over the next few weeks as I have real life matters to attend to and two other pages I'm working on simultaneously, but I'd be very down to collab for that new article in the future if you're interested. --Calthinus (talk) 13:32, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- I believe that Angelos Evert should have a place in this article.Alexikoua (talk) 20:36, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Great and thanks for the sources Alexi! --Calthinus (talk) 05:10, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yea I'd heard of the latter -- my understanding is that it largely didn't apply in Bulg-occupied Greece. And thanks--Calthinus (talk) 04:31, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Verification needed
I fail to see in this work [[4]] where "Official Greek policy towards Axis collaborators was milder and more hesitant than perhaps anywhere in Europe." As I see the author support something else: that communism-anticommunism struggle overshadowed the struggle against fascism.Alexikoua (talk) 16:59, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- You see nothing. Do not use Greek Google Books, they just show you a snippet piece of a page other than those cited on the article. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- I have full access (this part is written by Mazower) but the only part that states something similar is in p. 213. Can you point the exact paragraph&page where this part is based? It probably needs some rewording.Alexikoua (talk) 17:44, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- It's ok just found it.Alexikoua (talk) 17:48, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- I have full access (this part is written by Mazower) but the only part that states something similar is in p. 213. Can you point the exact paragraph&page where this part is based? It probably needs some rewording.Alexikoua (talk) 17:44, 3 September 2018 (UTC)