Talk:Axolotl/Archive 2

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Archive 2

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2023

Please change "The axolotl is carnivorous, consuming small prey such as mollusks,[22] worms, insects, other arthropods,[22] and small fish in the wild. Axolotls locate food by smell, and will "snap" at any potential meal, sucking the food into their stomachs with vacuum force.[23]" to "The axolotl is carnivorous, consuming small prey such as mollusks,[22] worms, insects, other arthropods,[22] and small fish in the wild. Axolotls locate food by smell, and will "snap" at any potential meal, sucking the food into their stomachs with vacuum force.[23] Axolotls are important to the natural ecosystem, as they play a role in the food chain and are the natural predator in its environment. Due to their nature as carnivores, axolotls consume worms, crustaceans, mollusks, and fish to control the population of said organisms." Mnguye78 (talk) 21:36, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Actualcpscm (talk) 21:44, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

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Page branch proposal

This page has long suffered through a significant number of enthusiastic editors who seek to add the latest depictions of axolotls (or axolotl-inspired species) to the relevant section, leading the admins to semi-protecting the page on a consistent and continuous basis. As this page mostly concerns the axolotl itself and its place in the environment, and the axolotl will continue to be significant in the minds of uncountable artists, I propose that a new page is established concerning the axolotl in popular culture; Axolotls in popular culture. I believe that they are now so recognizable as to warrant the creation of such a page, and being its own page, it would allow these enthusiastic editors to list every single depiction that comes to their mind without detracting from this page's scope. Anthropophoca (talk) 05:41, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Added an Image

An image was added of Lake Xochimilco. Stud3nt1947 (talk) 03:57, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

in literature

Why no mention of Julio Cortazar and Rene Daumal? 70.8.227.195 (talk) 18:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)Ray

The cloning devices in Frank Herbert’s Dune novels were called Axolotl tanks. 209.54.4.42 (talk) 22:08, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Pronunciation and photos

How do you pronounce 'axolotl'? Also, does anyone have any photographs of a fully metamorphosed ('adult') axolotl that they could add to the article? 217.34.39.123 09:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• I think it's pronounced "axle-ottle". --Candy-Panda 09:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

• • Yes, and I believe it was Groucho Marx who said "I'd rather have an axolotl in front of me than a frontal lobotomy". Or something like that. --CliffC 12:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

• • I believe it's a nahuat (an aztec language) and the 'x' was used by the spanish to represent a 'sh' sound, as in 'shield'. If this is so then the first bit would be pronounced "ash-olottle".
    

Bingo, a quick search turns up this <http://www.kent.ac.uk/anthropology/dice/research/azaxs/english/project/glossary.htm>
"The word is Náhuatl (the language spoken by the Aztecs) and is properly pronounced "ashólotl".

I also believe that the 'tl' is a representation of a sound familiar in Welsh, where it is written 'LL' and pronounced as a kind of aspirated, hissy letter L.

It would be much better if a Nahuatl speaker could comment though.

jan Water pepper (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Um... yah. But we don't speak Classical Nahuatl last time I checked, we speak English. Here are the correct pronunciations to add (article currently locked). Click "Edit" for this comment to cut-and-paste the actual source code with links into article:

(IPA US: [ˈæk.səˌlɑ.dəl] UK: [ˈak.səˌlɒ.təl]) Nahuatl: /aːʃoːloːtɬ/)

75.36.151.138 (talk) 21:46, 2 November 2008 (UTC)englishspeaker

Who's "we" ? The creature's name is Nahuatl, so you speak Nahuatl when you name the animal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.11.36.169 (talk) 15:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Meriam-Webster uses the common English pronunciation in their dictionary which reflects how people use it. I believe that the page should be updated to reflect that. 192.55.2.36 (talk) 15:38, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Add to the Cultural Significance section

In 2005 Nintendo released Animal Crossing: Wild World which features Dr. Shrunk [1]https://nookipedia.com/wiki/Dr._Shrunk based on the Axolotl 201.127.120.83 (talk) 04:35, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Do you have a WP:SOURCE that isn't another wiki that explains the WP:NOTABILITY? Mr Fink (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2024

On caption of photo of axolotl, change “Washington, D.C.” to “Baltimore.” (Context: there is no aquarium in DC, but there IS the National Aquarium in Baltimore, Maryland, and this aquarium did acquire an axolotl a few years back.) 71.244.202.40 (talk) 13:40, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: The picture was taken in 2006 before the Washington DC National Aquarium closed (and probably before Baltimore got their axolotl if it was a few years ago). Jamedeus (talk) 21:25, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Unprotection?

Can this article and talk page be unprotected now so that unregistered users can edit and make comments? We can quickly restore protection if necessary. --TS 20:08, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:List of Pokémon (241–260) indicates that the Pokemon-related meme is still going strong in the wider internet(..?). I agree that permanent semi-protection is suboptimal, though. This article gets around a thousand pageviews per day, but does not see high editing traffic or a high number of contributions from many individuals. If at least two or three other regular editors also have this watchlisted, it might be worth testing the waters. Starting with just the talkpage for a week or two might be best. WP:RFPP is just around the corner if it flares up again. - 2/0 (cont.) 21:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I've unprotected the talk page; I'm not so keen on the actual article itself however. -Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Tear him for his bad verses!)} 05:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

On the contrary to the Wooper comment, the Axolotl is more commonly known for its similarities to the Pokémon "Mudkip", which is an internet meme. 3mptylord (talk) 12:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Which is why this page gets semiprotected for long times because people trying to force the meme invariably come here as well to add it. -Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Tear him for his bad verses!)} 19:50, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Why is there a meme on a page that is trying to supplement helpful information about axolotls?AxolotlGirl24 (talk) 00:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2024

The axolotl (Ambystoma mexicanum) is a neotenic salamander, closely related to the tiger salamander. Known for its remarkable regenerative abilities, the axolotl serves as a model organism for regenerative medicine research (García-Valencia & Vargas-González, 2016) Saidsharif0210 (talk) 00:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 00:23, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Toothless AND the night fury?

A sentence in the cultural significance section reads "The looks of the dragons Toothless and The Night Fury in the How to Train Your Dragon movies are based on axolotls." As far as I am aware, Toothless is the night fury, so this does not make sense. 68.229.156.13 (talk) 15:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

"Deep well fish" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Deep well fish has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 22 § Deep well fish until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 20:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Possibly AI-generated section in Description

This text in the Description section describing the coloration of Axolotls seems to be AI-generated and uses improper and often subjective language. Bolded are the parts that seem out of place:

Axolotls exhibit diverse color variations driven by mutations in their pigmentation genes. These genes play a crucial role in determining the coloration of these unique creatures. Here's a concise list of axolotl color variants:

1. Wild-Type: The standard coloration for axolotls is brown/tan with gold speckles and an olive undertone. This serves as the baseline for comparison with various mutations.
2. Leucistic: Mutations in pigmentation genes result in a leucistic axolotl, characterized by a pale pink hue and distinctive black eyes. This variant is visually striking due to its light coloration.
3. Golden Albino: Axolotls with golden albino mutations exhibit a beautiful golden color with matching gold eyes. This visually appealing variant is highly sought after among axolotl enthusiasts.
4. Xanthic: Xanthic axolotls display a grey color with black eyes, standing out as a unique variation in the spectrum of axolotl pigmentation. The grey hue distinguishes them from the typical wild-type.
5. Albino: Unlike albino mutations in some other species, axolotl albinos are pale pink or white with red eyes. This albino variation is relatively common in axolotls and adds a touch of uniqueness to their appearance.
6. Melanoid: Axolotls with melanoid mutations are characterized by an all-black or dark blue coloration. Unlike the wild-type, melanoid axolotls lack gold speckles and the olive undertone, resulting in a distinct and darker appearance.

Chmess (talk) 13:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

@Chmess: Ho girl that's some bad writing -- and you're probably right about it being written by some AI agent in their default tone setting. The edit responsible is Special:Diff/1191313384, which I am going to revert (dear Hans-Otto savant, at least give your AI examples of proper encyclopedic writing, and do not remove information like you've done on the 4 genes). Its preceeding edit is also wrong (dear Hans-Otto savant, the term you are looking for is "specimen"). Artoria2e5 🌉 01:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

يا بني

I am sorry for the confusion with the AI and not giving better instructions. I see that listing the mutations of the four genes would, indeed, make it more readable. I will be adding everything myself without any AI to avoid inconveniences. Hans-Otto savant (talk) 15:39, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

The color-changing mutations description section has a couple errors

"Axolotls have four pigmentation genes; when mutated, they create different color variants. The normal wild-type animal is brown or tan with gold speckles and an olive undertone. The five most common mutant colors are listed below."

(4 are listed)

The type called "Xanthic" in the article is actually called "Axanthic", as far as I can tell with some quick searching Purpleleinad (talk) 03:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Image Location

The main image says it’s from the National Aquarium in Washington, DC. The National Aquarium is in Baltimore, MD. There is no national aquarium in DC. I know because I’m from there. And a simple Google search will show that too. Themword (talk) 01:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2024

Change "thyroud" to "thyroid" under "Role of iodine". :-) 86.29.121.40 (talk) 17:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done M.Bitton (talk) 17:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)