Talk:Bıyıklı Mehmed Pasha

Latest comment: 1 year ago by R Prazeres in topic Ethnicity in the lead

Ethnicity in the lead

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I've removed the information about his ethnic origin in the lead, for several reasons. First, the citation to a vague, inaccessible Turkish source here makes it impractical to verify and it was added by an IP who seems to have been promoting Turkish ethnic identity across several articles ([1]). Second, his ethnic origin is not very important information but, unsurprisingly, this part of the lead has been vandalized multiple times for equally POV reasons ([2], [3]). Meanwhile, the other cited source on this page, Islam Ansiklopedisi (which is accessible and reasonably reliable to my knowledge), explicitly states that we don't actually know anything definitive about his origin, so this seems like a dubious statement to make in the first place.

So instead, I've written a short summary in an "Early life" section instead, based on what the Islam Ansiklopedisi says. (I'm not a fluent Turkish reader, so feel free to bring up any corrections if necessary, as long as they're based directly on the source.) That should put an end to petty long-term edit-warring in the lead. R Prazeres (talk) 21:04, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply