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Latest comment: 8 months ago4 comments2 people in discussion
This edit summary claims to be removing duplicated info [1]. However what the edit did was remove any mention of vegetarianism from the article. This was not removal of duplicated info, if was removal of any information about vegetarianism. This may have been a mistake so I will assume good faith but we need to be more careful. If I had not have noticed this then this is total elimination of any mention of vegetarianism from the article. Vegetarianism is an important BAPS teaching. I have added just one line back to the article about this. Psychologist Guy (talk) 09:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Psychologist Guy, thank you for assuming good faith, I appreciate that and I want to clarify that my intention wasn't to remove all information about vegetarianism from the article. I genuinely felt that there was similarly worded info already mentioned under the Ekantik dharma section, specifically the sentence The ideals of dharma range from practicing non-violence to avoiding meat, onions, garlic, and other items in their diet. So the sentences in the vegetarianism section, BAPS advocates the principle of ahimsa (non-violence) and practices vegetarianism. BAPS members are strict lacto-vegetarians that also do not consume onion and garlic as they are believed to have tamasic properties just felt redundant.
Moreover, there was also an issue with WP:OR and WP:V with the last two sentences in that section which said They only eat food cooked by their own members. To help with this BAPs have food courts serving vegetarian food at its mandirs. The cited source [2] doesn't make these claims.
I saw the sentence that you added back in, and I still feel that it's redundant for the reason given above. However, I think if we combine the sentence you added with the existing sentence then it would explicitly use the terms ahimsa and vegetarianism. This would also add clarity to the point without unnecessarily restating it. I've went ahead and made the change and the new sentence reads: The ideals of dharma range from devotees following the principle of ahimsa (non-violence), practicing lacto-vegetarianism, avoiding onions, garlic, and other items in their diet. What do you think? Eucalyptusmint (talk) 02:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi that's alright. From my own understanding the idea that they only eat cooked food by their own members is obsolete, I don't think that is true any longer and it's hard to find any recent info on that. I agree we should remove baps own website, it is an unreliable source, we should cite secondary sources. From some of the academic books I found which give a brief overview they are strict lacto-vegetarian. I agree with merging the content, it only needs to be in one place. I see you have done that, I support your edits. Thanks. Psychologist Guy (talk) 14:37, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh great! Thank you. And can definitely relate that information is hard to find sometimes. I've noticed this while trying to find info on various temple articles that there's not many secondary sources. For that reason, I was under the impression that primary sources can be used (as I did see some cited on those articles), because primary sources aren't by default unreliable per WP:PRIMARYNOTBAD. So I would think we can use them to cite basic info as long as we use WP:PRIMARYCARE. But agreed, secondary sources are always preferred. Eucalyptusmint (talk) 23:59, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
