Talk:BBC News Online

Low graphics version

Some time on the afternoon of Thursday May 13th the low graphics version disappeared. It now returns a "301 Moved Permanently" redirect to http://news.bbc.co.uk/

In its place is a link to a "mobile version" at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/mobile/default.stm

Merger

I was thinking that the content of BBC News Magazine Monitor could be slimmed down and merged into this article, since a lot of the current content could be considered superfluous and the rest could fit in quite easily within this article. Wikiwoohoo 15:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Just done it. Hope people like it. Wikiwoohoo 21:05, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

10 years

Today, 22 October, the oldest news article still available directly on BBC News Online is ten years old.

To celebrate I and several others are tying to get it onto today's most read list. So please could you and all your friends and colleagues read http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/14310.stm Thryduulf 12:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Oldest page

See http://www.bbc.co.uk/politics97

This news sub-section of the BBC site could be the oldest news page available. It still has the old BBC logo! --Jorvik 16:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

That would still be on because the BBC never removes any of its new articles, which is an advantage compared to most news websites. This makes it easier to source info on current events portals. :) Jackninja5 (talk) 06:15, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Banners?

I'm looking at BBC.co.uk (international version) right now but I can't see a single banner! When were they supposed to be implemented?82.99.21.74 (talk) 11:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Forum

The paragraph regarding the ease of manipulation of rankings, in particular the sentence "It's obvious......nowhere" is IMHO very subjective. Is there any evidence of this which can be cited?

--Yendor1958 (talk) 06:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Problems

According to this they got RSS 0.91 feeds in 2003 and then upgraded to 2.0 in 2000. This appears to be a clear error. PS- If I find the correct info I will add it --82.32.52.223 (talk) 06:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

The graphic of the "original design" from 1999 is actually of the first redesign after the launch. stories from late 1997 and 1998 are quite different.

Articles per/day

Is it known roughly how many articles are printer per day? I would say about 210. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.251.52.136 (talk) 20:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Forum

This section needs more citation. As an aside though, if moderators are following "their own agenda" in terms of what they allow to be published, then clearly they must be borderline insane, judgding from the frankly nonsensical postings that are often allowed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.143.201.117 (talk) 00:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Standard of written English

It's ironic that there are probably proportionally less spelling and grammatical errors on the Wikipedia page for BBC News than on the actual website itself. They need proofreaders. Anyone have examples of news stories pointing this out? It's often brought up on forums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.242.162 (talk) 22:24, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't that be "fewer errors" ? --195.137.93.171 (talk) 01:16, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Are those spelling errors or British-English spellings? The Brits don't always spell like we do, but then they invented English, so who is going to argue with them?

In the USA,

69.171.160.87 (talk) 03:28, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Fewer vs Less is grammatical (not a spelling issue), and for countable nouns (such as "errors"), it is standard. Hoof (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2013 (UTC) Blocked sock:Evlekis.

Criticism of redesign

An editor keeps inserting unsourced claims about the 2015 redesign being widely criticised. It is absolutely fine for negative criticism of the News Online interface to be discussed in this article but it needs to be given a reliable source, preferably someone writing a criticism in a technology journal or newspaper. Simply saying that it has been slagged off in the comments section of a blog isn't enough I'm afraid. Perhaps if anyone wants to include criticism it could refer to what the "poor usability" actually is. There's no use repeatedly inserting vague, unreferenced claims as they're going to get deleted. Cnbrb (talk) 19:18, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

There's been no response after a week so I have removed this statement. If anyone does have a critique of the usability of News Online, it would be very interesting to include this in the article — provided, of course, that it also includes reliable sources.Cnbrb (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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Magazine site claims

With reference to this edit and many other reverted edits before this: if you wish to insert a statement that BBC News Online "primarily contains magazine style non-news", please cite a reliable source such as a newspaper article that says this. Anything that goes into a Wikipedia article has to be backed up by a reference.

If you are not sure how to add references, paste the link here in this talk page, and other editors will help you to insert it into the article.

These edits have been reverted because they are simply a personal opinion. Please do not engage in edit warring - it will achieve nothing. Cnbrb (talk) 14:58, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Anonymous IP editor did not pay attention and continued edit warring, so the article page has now been semi-protected. I expect he'll be back, but at least we won't have our time wasted for the next week. Cnbrb (talk) 15:41, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Another attempt to insert this claim today. I can't really be bothered chasing anonymous IP editors around explaining Wikipedia rules, but please note that if you want to insert this statement, it must be backed up with a reliable source. Furthermore, this is a critical evaluation, not a factual statement, and does not belong in the introduction section. Please find a source to cite and stop trying to restart a tiresome edit war. Cnbrb (talk) 16:51, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

The website was launched on 4 November 1997 ?

The article claims, 'The website was launched on 4 November 1997, headed by founding editor Mike Smartt and Project Director Bob Eggington.' The Wayback Machine has a crawl from 9 October of that year. https://web.archive.org/web/19971101000000*/bbc.co.uk/news One of the site links for that date is dated 8 October? https://web.archive.org/web/19971009045647/http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10/1008/euro.shtml I'm no expert on the media, but the Wayback data pre-dates the wiki article date. 2A00:23C6:3B89:8A00:7436:61DD:8964:E1E3 (talk) 04:55, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

WP and BBC News Magazine in the news

Citogogenesis explained via a case study: https://news4sanantonio.com/news/offbeat/the-case-of-an-iconic-watch-how-wikipedia-and-writers-create-false-facts-from-thin-air Zezen (talk) 07:38, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Everyone in history whose name was Steven

Steven Spielberg Steven Tyler Steven Jobs Steven McQueen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenmcnally171028298 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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