Talk:Bağanıs Ayrım
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Unsubstantiated claims
editReferences 1 and 2 are used to support the following statement:
The Armenian forces burned some 20 houses and massacred eleven Azerbaijani civilians
However, those references make no mention of 20 homes, massacres of 11 civilians or massacres at all.
Note, references 1 and 2 link to the same Russian media article: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/266481
Which states, in relation to Baganis Ayrum (Google translate):
A few hours later, units of the Armenian National Army shelled the Azerbaijani villages
of Yuhara-Askipara, Baganis-Ayrum, Ashaghy-Askipara and Gushchu, wedged into the territory
of Armenia. According to eyewitnesses, the shelling involved not only automatic weapons,
but also grenade launchers, mortars, hail guns and even surface-to-surface missiles. The
first hours of the soldiers successfully repelled the attack. Four helicopters then delivered
additional militia units from Yerevan, as a result of which they managed to capture
the villages of Yuhara-Askipara and Baganis-Ayrum. The village of Baganis Ayrum was attacked
on 26 March. On 20 August, additional military units, tanks, anti-aircraft guns and
helicopter gunships were deployed to the site of the fighting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.244.128.134 (talk) 05:41, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
due attribution
edit@Addictedtohistory: Please stop edit warring. Writing significantly alleged, but unconfirmed things are common practice in Wikipedia, when the sources are attributed. Read MOS:CLAIM and MOS:ALLEGED. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 16:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Addictedtohistory:I would ask you the same. You know well that Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict topics are sensitive, and if such one-sided allegations should be framed based on national sources, that would set a bad precedence. --Addictedtohistory (talk) 23:06, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
- The fact that it's sensitive is exactly why we've used "According to Azerbaijani sources". Sources, which mostly are accounts from the survivors of the massacre. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 09:06, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Addictedtohistory:I would ask you the same. You know well that Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict topics are sensitive, and if such one-sided allegations should be framed based on national sources, that would set a bad precedence. --Addictedtohistory (talk) 23:06, 11 March 2021 (UTC)