Talk:Baška tablet

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"Text in Croatian" is in fact a transliteration to Latin script. It is not in the modern Croatian. Translation to English uses transcription which is not usual for Wikipedia (Otočac is transcriber to Otochac). It contradicts the existence of Wikipedia entry Otočac which is in original spelling. A more subtle point – the plate is damaged, there are some different interpretations of its text. I'll emphasize all those points in the article. Any objections/remarks? --dnik 12:46, 18 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Done, feel free to improve with hypothesized restorations of unreadable segments ^_^ Dumped the brain-damaged Russian-style romanization of yers pro traditional one (as if the 11th century yers have anything to do with consonant softening/hardening) --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 19:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

IMPORTANT: Photo must certainly be of a reproduction, given this, the "earliest known photo": http://www.croatianhistory.net/gif/gl/baska_tablet_standl.jpg, from this page: http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/baska.html. I've contacted Darko Žubrinić, Zagreb (darko.zubrinic@fer.hr), to see what I can learn, and if Wikipedia can use the original 1869 photo by Ivan Standl. Dstlascaux (talk) 18:38, 5 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Glagolitic text and it's transliteration aren't coherent

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Hello, sorry, but during making a comparision of various types of glagolitic I readed the Baška tablet text and I noticed that:

1) the text on Baška tablet and on the glagolitic text in the article isn't the same

2) the Glagolitic text in the article isn't the same as the transliteration.

You can see some of those problems in the corrections I made. There are very strange things, like marking readable letters as unreadable or unreadable as readable. There's some example for point 2)

"Vin[od](o)lě [Ěk](o)vъ v(ъ) Otocě" is really

"ⰲⰻⱀⱁⰴⰾⱑ--ⰲⰰⰲⱁ ⱅⱁⱌⱑ  vinodlě--vavo (next line) tocě" 

- why there's a parenthesis and a "Ěk" without any "a"?

I'm a little confused. Is it really Branko Fučić work? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asank neo (talkcontribs) 12:10, 24 July 2019 (UTC)Reply


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So, the text of the transliteration isn't even coherent with his source - Branko Fučić's text is very different from the actual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asank neo (talkcontribs) 12:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Asank neo, can you point to a source with the correct transliteration? GregorB (talk) 13:38, 17 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

latest edit war about language

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Let's just note for the record that our reference to the Croatian Encyclopedia says unequivocally:

Jezik je ploče hrvatskostaroslavenski.
Jezikoslovni pristupi pokušavali su pronaći i naglasiti bilo hrvatske bilo starosl. jezične osobitosti i odrediti temeljni jezični sloj (F. Rački, D. Kniewald, J. Hamm, V. Štefanić, M. Moguš, S. Damjanović).

This is hardly an area where we'd be dependent on WP:OR. --Joy (talk) 20:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)Reply