Talk:Babikr Bedri
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Get the man's memoirs and write a proper article
editSomeone needs to get hold of the memoirs of Babikir Badri, read them, and write a proper article. They're available in English and Arabic, so it shouldn't be hard to do! Sirpastealot (talk) 21:47, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I have the book, and I have changed the name within the article ot Babikr Bedri rather than Babikir Badri, as the former is what's stated in the translated version(s) and the book itself. His son is Yousef Bedri. I just wish there was a way we could change the article heading, as well. 69.136.69.190 (talk) 20:46, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Memoirs are useful, but not enough
editThe two volumes of My Life available in English provide a great deal of information about Babikr Bedri and his time.
To produce a satisfactory entry on Wikipedia, however, we need some good secondary sources as well, in English and in Arabic. I don't think you can rely just on what the man himself wrote.
An elderly male relation - but certainly not Babikr Bedri
editI don't know where this uncredited information comes from, but according to Babikr Bedri's grandson and other descendants he died in 1954. Ms Badawi may be looking after an elderly male relation but it is not the man whose life is described in this Wikipedia page.
In other words, he passed on two years before Sudanese independence and several years before Molly and John Crowfoot, at the age of 56. Zeinab Badawi would confirm this information, moreover.
To be a Mahdist warrior, one has to be of an age to fight
editNo reference has been offered for the odd assertion that Babikr Bedri is alive and living in England with one of his MANY great grandchildren (he had several wives, after all).
The date of birth is also evidently incorrect since if BB was born in 1898 he could not possibly have fought for the Mahdi or been present at the Battle of Omdurman, essential parts of his biography and worldview.
I have therefore reverted this section to the version before Ms Yates altered the text.