Talk:Back to Basics (Christina Aguilera album)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: HĐ (talk · contribs) 15:01, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Maybe I can help you expand some sections. I really love this album and I want it to be GA, too. — HĐ (talk) 12:06, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• I appreciate the offer, my only hesitation is that the reviewer can't be too involved in the article's current form. WikiRedactor (talk) 18:37, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I have found some few issues:

Lead

• It says that the album has sold over 5 million copies worldwide, while the ref. given says that only 4.5 million
• Link music critics
• The album received a nomination for Best Pop Vocal Album at the 2007 Grammy Awards and won Best Female Pop Vocal Performance for its lead single "Ain't No Other Man". Internationally, the album debuted with 615,000 units, and has since sold 5 million copies worldwide. It was later certified platinum in Europe and double platinum in Australia and Canada. ---> Remove "Internationally... Canada" to be located before "The album... Ain't No Other Man". — HĐ (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

  Y I've fixed them. — HĐ (talk) 13:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Background

• Why did Aguilera use her alter ego Baby Jane? — HĐ (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

   Done

• "Subsequently, Aguilera included the song "F.U.S.S." ("F*** You Scott Storch"), which Storch commented was "pathetic"" ---> Remove the "which Storch... pathetic" to the "Composition" section. — HĐ (talk) 05:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

  But wouldn't that leave his mention in the Background section a bit incomplete? I get into a little more detail about "F.U.S.S." in the expanded Composition, anyways.

  Y Okay, that's fine

Music and lyrics

• Change it to 'Composition'

   Done

• Give it some music samples if possible

   Done

• Try to write more about each songs — HĐ (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

   Done

Singles and promotion

• Merge them together because the two sections are quite short You've expanded them — HĐ (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

   Done, I expanded the Singles section and removed the subhead in the Promotion section (to make it look "fuller".)

• Add: The track "Here to Stay" was used for the Pepsi Commercial.

   Done

Critical reception

• Add: Robert Christgau gave the album a "dud" () score

•  Done

• Separate "The album received a nomination... twenty-five years" into another section "Awards and accolades". Try to find more best-of lists and awards if possible — HĐ (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

  The album only won a couple of awards, the major ones being listed in the article alrady. Since they are still critical recognitions, I think they fit alright where they are right now.

   Done

Commercial performance

• It's to short. Try to write more about its chart positions and certifications — HĐ (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

  It's now a few paragraphs long, take a look and tell me what you think.

Charts, certifications and release history

• I've fixed the layout — HĐ (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

   Done

• The source for the chart "International sales" is dead

  Couldn't find a replacement, so that figure has been removed.

  Y, okay

• Release history: add 'format' and 'label'. — HĐ (talk) 06:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

   Done

Files

• Remove some image files. They make the article look not so good — HĐ (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

   Done

Overall

• Wow you've did very well to expand the article! I really love that. There are two things left:
  • Expand the 'Singles' section (follow the article Circus (Britney Spears album))
  • Expand more the 'Commercial performance' section (adding information for its American & Europe success) — HĐ (talk) 05:02, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
    • I added a bit more meat into both sections, let me know what you think.

• OK, I've checked them and there are some few more issues:
  • "Ain't No Other Man": "...and was certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America for selling one million copies" ---> Actually, "Ain't No Other Man" has sold more than 1.7 million copies in the US, so you must say that "...for selling more than one million copies" not only "one million copies"
  • "Hurt": "...It peaked within the top ten in several European countries, including Austria and France; it peaked at number 19 on the Hot 100 and was later certified gold for sales of over 500,000 copies." ---> Fix: "...The single was a moderate hit in the US, peaking at number 19 on the Hot 100. But elsewhere, it was a commercial success, peaking at number..."
  • "Candyman": "...In the United States, the song peaked at number 25 on the Hot 100 and was eventually certified gold. Internationally, it reached the top twenty in most countries, including Australia and New Zealand." ---> Fix: "...Similar to "Hurt", "Candyman" was also a moderate hit in the US, peaking at number 25. But elsewhere, the single was a commercial success..."
  • "Oh Mother": "...it peaked at numbers 23, 54, and 79 in Austria, the Netherlands, and China, respectively" ---> Seriously? The single was released exclusively in Europe, so there are no charts for China! It peaked at number 79 in Switzerland. Fix it.

   Done WikiRedactor (talk) 21:00, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

  • The rest: Seems fine. — HĐ (talk) 05:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Result

• Well done, passing! — HĐ (talk) 01:08, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Additional comments

• If I could just make a comment, most of the sections are nowhere near as expansive enough. The Singles section for example does not cover enough information, and isn't even complete. This article needs a lot of work, far more than the alarming few comments posted here.  — AARON • ^TALK 11:08, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Thank you both for your feedback. Over the next couple days, I will expand the sections as recommended and make sure this article fully meets GA requirements. WikiRedactor (talk) 12:01, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Please bear with me, I'm a little busier than normal this coming week, but I will make sure that the expansions come before the end of the week so the article doesn't have to be failed. My apologies. WikiRedactor (talk) 15:29, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
    • Loud (Rihanna album) is a good one to follow  — AARON • ^TALK 11:39, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
      • Thanks for your idea, Aaron. — HĐ (talk) 12:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• I added some reviews. Jorn ^talk 00:26, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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