Talk:Bad for Me (Meghan Trainor song)

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 09:17, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will execute this review now --K. Peake 09:17, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Infobox looks good!
• Mention in the first sentence that it was from the former's fifth major-label studio album
• Swap the release and writing/production sentences
• "as the lead single from" → "as the lead single from the album" with the wikilink
• "and Vindver produced it." → "and Vindver handled the production." but these credits need to be fully written out in prose
• ""Bad for Me" has lyrics about" → "it has lyrics about"
• Add a sentence about critical reception at the start of the second para
• "performed it on television shows including" → "performed it on television shows in 2022, including"

Background

• "studio albums in 2020," → "studio albums in 2020:"
• "as an attempt to "adapt" → "since she was "adapting" per the source
• "fifth one, in May the following year," → "fifth one in May 2022,"
• "the lead single from it." → "the lead single from the album."
• "along with its lyrics" → "along with the lyrics"
• Mention that it was released as a single and where is the guest vocals part sourced?

Composition

• Retitle to Composition and lyrics
• Mention the songwriters here since you have mentioned the producer
• Pipe keyboards to Keyboard instrument
• "it at Sterling Sound in" → "the song at Sterling Sound in" with the pipe per MOS:LINK2SECT
• ""Bad for Me" is a" → "Musically, "Bad for Me" is a"
• "incorporates the piano" → "incorporates a piano"
• Pipe acoustic to Acoustic guitar
• Remove or replace Forbes per WP:FORBES
• Remove or replace The Breeze per WP:RSSM
• "to name the subject but dispelled the idea that it" → "to name the subject, but dispelled the idea it"

Reception

• ""[The song] is a" → ""[The song] ... is a" per the source's full quote
• "a pop masterpiece", and complimented" → "a pop masterpiece." He also complimented" per MOS:QUOTE
• Mention that the Adult Contemporary chart is a Billboard one
• Merge the Adult Top 40 and Canadian Digital Song Sales chart sentences per the overly short length

Music video

• Merge with the below section and retitle to Promotion per the overly short sizes
• "In it, Trainor and Swims" → "In the video, Trainor and Swims"

Live performances

• Make this the second para of the above section
• "On August 24, 2022 they" → "On August 24, 2022, they"

Charts

• Good

Release history

• None of these should be sortable
• Format → Format(s)

References

• Copyvio score looks fab at 18.0%!!!
• Why is Meghan Trainor linked on ref 14 but not ref 9? Also, shouldn't it cite Epic Records as publisher and her as author?

• I was advised against putting the label as the publisher at an FAC, apparently it causes an internal ref error that is visible when the page is edited.

• Remove or replace ref 18 per WP:FORBES
• Remove or replace ref 19 per WP:RSSM
• Cite Today as work/website instead on ref 32

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed! --K. Peake 10:44, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for completing this review so quickly, K. Peake! Everything should be addressed.--NØ 12:43, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

• MaranoFan Your welcome, however where are the guest vocals sourced on the mention in the body and why is Meghan Trainor not linked to on the Twitter ref? --K. Peake 08:54, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

The sentence "features American singer-songwriter Teddy Swims" is included in the Background section and sourced to this. Her recording it as a duet with Swims is also reliably sourced and included in the Composition and lyrics section, and a comment about them sharing vocal chemistry on it from a reliable critic is also present in the Reception section. Introducing a wikilink in the user field of the cite tweet template produces errors so I won't be able to do that one. Regards.--NØ 09:35, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass now, this looks fine! --K. Peake 10:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 00:29, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that Meghan Trainor kept the subject of "Bad for Me", a song about toxic family relationships, private? Source: People
  • ALT1: ... that Daryl Sabara and Meghan Trainor were laying in bed together when he suggested that she record "Bad for Me" as a duet with Teddy Swims? Source: Rolling Stone
  • ALT2: ... that Meghan Trainor (pictured) wrote her song "Bad for Me" with literal strangers? Source:Rolling Stone (same as above)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fucking Trans Women

Improved to Good Article status by MaranoFan (talk). Self-nominated at 10:47, 16 December 2022 (UTC).

•  Reviewing... Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:58, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - see comments
• Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @MaranoFan: Good article. However, i'm not really seeing where in the source it states that trainor refused the name the subject of her song. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:44, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Onegreatjoke, thank you so much for reviewing. I've hopefully made the first hook less controversial and also added another one.--NØ 21:11, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't think that "literal" is necessary for alt2 but i'll still approve regardless. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:29, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: why the image slot specifically for this one? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:10, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Well, as you know, I really want the slot for any of my nominations. With this one, I framed the hooks with your suggestion in mind. ALT2 talks about Trainor's songwriting, which I think people might be able to visualize better if accompanied by a picture. The other two hooks also talk about Trainor engaged in certain activities. Unless I'm still getting it wrong, in which case I would request you to help me find a hook for which the image slot would make sense. Regards.--NØ 05:44, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: my apologies if I wasn't clear – I generally don't like hooks in the lead slot that divert views to a side link, away from the bolded article. If Trainor is both pictured and linked in the hook, she'll divert views away from "Bad for Me", which is something I generally try to avoid. The other reason, specifically for works in particular, is that there's nothing overly special about this image for this specific nomination. If I put this image in the image slot for this hook, there's no reason I shouldn't do it for the next four Meghan Trainor songs that come through DYK, and that's not a road I want to go down. If you'd like to get an image slot, I suggest getting an artist to DYK, rather than a work. Copyrighted works are generally pretty hard to picture. That said, someone might promote this with an image anyway, but I'm not really inclined to myself. Sorry for the misunderstanding! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:04, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

That's totally fine and I'll hold out hope that another promoter will promote this DYK with the image. Cheers!--NØ 05:24, 20 December 2022 (UTC)