Talk:Baden-Powell's Scout training scheme

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Ryan Close in topic Training Sequence, Advancement, or Rank

Training Sequence, Advancement, or Rank

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The word rank ordinarily refers to a position in a "chain of command" defining dominance, authority, and responsibility in a military hierarchy. See Military rank. In other parts of the world, this refers to the following positions: Scoutmaster, Troop Leader (or "Senior Patrol Leader"), Assistant Senior Patrol Leader, Patrol Leader, Troop Guide, Quartermaster, etc. Only the BSA uses the word "rank" to refer to the sequence of advancements in the "training scheme." This article refers to the sequence consisting of Tenderfoot Scout, Second Class Scout, First Class Scout, and King's Scout as ranks. According to Traditional Scouting Website, "in his South African Constabulary, Baden-Powell's training sequence of "Tenderfoot, 2nd Class, 1st Class" did not replace military ranks (like Sergeant). The former were recognition of a military scout's understanding of military scouting skills, while a military scout's "rank" was based on his leadership abilities." By using the phrase "Scout ranks" we are confusing the matter, equivocating between Baden-Powell's original "training sequence" and the so-called "rank" terminology adopted only in the BSA. In this form the article favors a BSA centric POV. Ryan Close (talk) 19:50, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your note Ryan Close; what you say is quite correct. When creating this, I "borrowed" the term from the BSA article for want of a better heading. After a bit of digging around, I have found that B-P uses the phrase "Scouts’ Badges of First and Second Class" in Aids to Scoutmastership (the section headed "The Activities of Scouting"), so perhaps "Scouts’ Badges" might do instead? Or if you can think of a better section title, let me know or feel free to edit it yourself. Alansplodge (talk) 16:31, 3 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the consideration. I appreciate it.Ryan Close (talk) 21:17, 14 April 2020 (UTC)Reply