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editHave we any significant mention of this person outside the accounts of the battle of Ashdown in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle and Asser's Life of Alfred (the latter a contentions source)?
Modern English translations of this persons name tend to use Bagsac, is that what we should call him? PatGallacher (talk) 02:55, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- Bagsecg was the old englisch Form of "Bersiggr", an old norse Name! 2A02:8388:E2C1:6900:95B8:9728:F45A:FAE3 (talk) 20:04, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
This material which StephenPaternoster is attempting to add looks to me like a piece of semi-literate unencyclopedic speculation. What do people think? PatGallacher (talk) 21:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
King Bagsecg
editThe first line reads thus:-
"Bagsecg (also known as Bægsecg or Bagsec) (died 8 January 871) was a Viking leader commonly referred to as a king. In 870 or 871 he led The Great Summer Army to England."
How could he lead the GSA in 871 if he died in January 871? IF (and it is an if) he led the Great Summer-Fleet of 870 he arrived sometime after Easter of 870 and banded together with a Danish army under Halfdan Ragnarsson at Reading. He was killed early in the new year of 871 in the Battle of Ashdown by King Ethelraed's forces. It may have been 8 January but I know of no contemporary sources that give this date.
Dantes Warden
Why is he
editIt is more likely, that real name of Bagsecg = Hvitserk. 212.58.119.249 (talk) 17:46, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Was Bagsecg Björn Ironside?
editIt could be that Bagsecg was a failed tranlation of the Name Björn or "Berno"
Maybe Halfdan, Bagsecg, Ubba and Ivar were in fact Real brothers (The sons of Lodbrok, maybe Gofraid of Lochlann or Rörik of Dorestad?) 2A02:8388:E2C1:6900:95B8:9728:F45A:FAE3 (talk) 20:10, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Bagsecg = Berserkr
editThe name Bagsecg is maybe not a refer to the Name "Bersi", but maybe based of the old norse word "Berserkr". It is possible, that this was a nickname for another viking chieftain. Bagsecg was known as "King". It is possible that he is identical with Horik II (becaused he disappears from the danish chronicles after 864) or Frotho I. I also speculate, that he could be the same person as a norse leader, called "Asgeirr". This Asgeirr raided together with an chieftain called Sidroc and Harold at the Loire. We know that these name were also menoited at the Battle of Ashdown. 2A02:8388:E2C1:6900:54F:830A:33EC:6B32 (talk) 18:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)