Talk:Bamba (snack)

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Corn

What is meant by the word "corn" in this article? — Pekinensis 01:10, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have generalized it to "grain". — Pekinensis 20:08, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Corn is a grain, otherwise known as maize. If these are made from corn, the article should reflect that.

Also, these things sound delicious. I wonder if they are available in the U.S. —ptk✰fgs 00:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, you can find Bamba Snacks in the U.S, probably in places where lots of Israeli citizens are concenrated (especially in New York City area). Its price, however, is a LOT higher than in Israel. CarpeDiemIsrael 15:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

You don't need to go to NYC to find it, it's found in all Wegmans and Shoprite stores in the US in their international aisles; some selected walmarts also have it, that I have personally seen. --64.121.20.108 (talk) 18:25, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Also a german snack ...

This is a common snack in germany, but here it goes by the name "Erdnussflips" ("Erdnuss"=peanut, Flip is not realy translatable). It was first sold in 1963 by the firm "Bahlsen". Can someone edit the article to take that into account? I fear my english isn't good enough for Wikipedias standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.173.9.163 (talk) 16:05, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

no. we have to write an english article about the german/euro variant and also make the german article direct here and not to the product from the middle east (which is delicious btw.) 77.8.254.30 (talk) 23:50, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

"No"? - what's that supposed to mean? - the German snack (Bahlsen) is from 1963, this one here is from 1964; which one should redirect where?... don't be ridiculous! - "Erdnuss-flips" came first O.O since when is something named by the second guy to "invent" (steal/copy) it??? 95.91.137.9 (talk) 21:20, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

to put it in other words: there is no "German variant" of "Bamba" - there is only an Israel (!) variant (!) of "Erdnussflips which is called "bamba"! - don't turn history on it's head! - if anything, make a separate article for Bamba, redirecting here, and rewrite that to accurately portray what it is and where it is actually from!!! Jeez... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.91.137.9 (talk) 22:09, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Please don't get aggressive, I'll help sort it out: When the previous owner died in the late 1990s, Bahlsen was split between his two sons (who couldn't agree how to stay together), the sweet cookies department is now still called Bahlsen, the salty stuff is now Lorenz, after the other brothers' first name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_Snack-World . Bahlsen (now Lorenz) made a puffed corn snack flavored by the 32 percent ground (I mean grinded) peanuts that were added, and which remains their only flavor available. A lot of other companies in Germany copied this, very few offer an additional cheese flavor version (sells like a very few percent of non-cheese sort). Bahlsen/Lorenz call their type "ErdnussLocken", peanut curls (like from curly hair), the copy brands call theirs "Erdnuss Flips" (Flips is a nonsense word which appears nowhere else in German, aside from an ice-cream dessert with a banana, called "Banana Flip", and the name of a grasshopper in the children's book "Maya the little honeybee" a.k.a. "Biene Maja" in German spelling); the official legal term is "Mais-Erdnuss-Snack" (fine print on the back of each package, any brand, above ingredients list), corn peanut snack. Since the grandparents that were usually asked by the kids to buy that snack couldn't make anything of the "Flips" name, they just called them "worms" or similar local names for a specific larval stage of a vegetable farming parasite bug or butterfly that looks like a short fat worm and lives underground .. native populations of South America and Australia are actually known to eat such worms or their relatives from those regions, but Germans usually don't, aside from a former bakery owner and renowned 1970s outdoor survival expert pioneer named Ruediger Nehberg (not a joke; the "ue" in his first name is "ü", like "u" with double speech marks above, in proper German spelling .. uh, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BCdiger_Nehberg ).

Israel's Bamba product is in fact very different from the German remote cousin: It's available in many different flavors, and in particular with all sorts of fillings, even sweet ones like chocolate or halva (which Germans know, if at all, as Turkish Honey or French nougat (German nougat, despite the same name, refers to chocolate with added hazelnut paste) ; Germans couldn't imagine sweet tastes to go together with peanuts, at least till now, early 2017). The only similar version is the one without filling, which is actually said to taste exactly like the German "Flips" style. The main difference between those seems to be that the German ingredients listing talks of finely ground peanuts, whereas the Israeli one says peanut butter, which in turn is simply finely ground peanuts .. a thousand years of living together leave their traces, it seems. I would hope that the Bamba versions will also be exported to Germany, and not just to Jewish community shops (hard to find one if you're not part of that, and live in a very big city), but ordinary supermarkets for all, or they should sell them online. There -is- a market for that there, and ten times more customers in the typical snack product eating age group than in Israel, so that looks like a lot of business. :)

Neither of the two invented the product all alone, America did, back when it was Great ;) . Follow the link early in the Bamba article to "Cheez Doodles", then early there to competing "Cheetos", then to the Cheetos talk page, then down there to the origins section: A user from the USA tells how he, as a kid, helped a neighbor put corn dough through an extruder to make what the neighbor called "corn curls" (first mention of "curls" there, like Bahlsens name for theirs), which were then shipped to a factory in another state where a cheese coating was added for the flavor's sake. He writes he left that town in summer 1948, so the production he saw and helped with must have been 1947 or earlier. Which brand that product was sold as apparently remains unknown, and I'm not sure whether that user is still alive to tell more, he would have to be in his late 70s or older by now. Too bad that WP article talk pages don't go for reliable sources, interesting nevertheless.

The American products of this kind (there seem to be several different companies that make such) often come in tens of different flavors from the same brand, usually with cheese or "hot" (spicy, like pepper or chili) taste, though sometimes also sweet. Export to Europe, anyone, please? =)

If you have time to read the en.WP article on "popcorn", basically a simpler predecessor of the corn puff snacks, it links to "Cracker Jack", a variant thereof apparently invented by German immigrants in the USA. --g'o'tz2A02:8108:81C0:34DC:4551:8417:680C:BC04 (talk) 22:35, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

This is gold! can we please make this answer the history section of the article? made my day :) Moedn (talk) 21:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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this sanction should be erased. the link you gave is broken or deleted and bamba was tested and approved as good for kids. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.142.168.86 (talk) 03:31, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Please be specific as to what your issue is an provide a WP:RS to back up your claim - Galatz^Talk 12:51, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

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Lack of Alternate Viewpoint

It seems that there should be information provided to support the claim that Bamba has been promoted as a "healthy" snack in order to honor the opposite viewpoint. In addition, further evidence to support the alternative claim that Bamba is not a "healthy" snack should also be included. Arinsenior (talk) 17:18, 16 September 2020 (UTC)