Talk:Ban of Slavonia

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Latest comment: 12 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

This looks like a well-intentioned but improper fork of the idea presented in Ban of Croatia#Parallel bans of Slavonia and Dalmatia. Ban cijele Slavonije (Ban of the Whole of Slavonia) was apparently a title, but I don't think the phrase Banovina Slavonija (Banovina of Slavonia) is used. Google shows me a small amount of hits (46) for the phrase "slavonska banovina", and not even all of those are used as a proper noun, rather just put together as part of the text (possessive form). --Joy [shallot] (talk) 09:38, 7 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

So, do you suggest that title should be changed or what? Historical maps of medieval Kingdom of Hungary are presenting Slavonia as separate province and due to the fact that it was governed by a ban, it would be logical that term "Banovina of Slavonia" is used. Or you suggest that some other name would be more appropriate one? PANONIAN 10:46, 7 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Moved to the more verifiable title title (sic). --Joy [shallot] (talk) 16:55, 1 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

map of 13th century Hungary

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

File:Hungary 13th cent.png, and also its derivative File:Hungary 13th century.png, are simplistic copies of a historical source map at [1], and with an increasing bit of irredentist slant. I can barely read the text, let alone identify its actual author, so it's basically unsourced as such. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 08:14, 2 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

Moving this article's contents to Ban of Croatia?

The Ban of Slavonia was indeed from 1225 a speparate title of an area called Slavonia, populated by mostly Slavs (Croats). But since a lot of the Slavonian bans held parallel titles as also Bans of Croatia and Dalmatia, I propose to unite this article's contents with the Ban of Croatia but clarify why they are considered separate for a relatively short period of 200+ years. After all, the Slavic bans were ethnically Croats and the Slavonian region was always treated as either a part of Croatia or as subservient as a kingdom to it (during the Habsburgs for a time with common Croatian-Slavonian bans and kings (Habsburg). If anyone object to this, I understand, but it's just a proposal.

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