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Questionable relevance of non banana-related racist taunts in football

I had removed the sentence "Racist taunts are an ongoing problem in football.[170][171]" because it isn't directly relevant to bananas (the topic of the article), but my change was reverted. I think this is a mistake - there are other places to note that racist taunts might be an ongoing problem in football, but I don't think this article is it, unless the taunts involve bananas. But I don't intend to get into an edit war over a low-value statement. Maybe someone else wants to deal with this, perhaps rewrite the section? Or link to a main article on racism in sports or something? Bernd Jendrissek (talk) 06:14, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

The text directly relates this to bananas specifically. Why is this not relevant? Invasive Spices (talk) 17:36, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

No, the text "Racist taunts are an ongoing problem in football" does not relate to bananas specifically, at least not as written. If racist taunts involving bananas are an ongoing problem and that this is supported by references 170 and 171 then the text should specify this. As it stands, the text refers to racist taunts in general, not to the subcategory "racist taunts involving bananas". Bernd Jendrissek (talk) 21:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

"When?" template needed on imprecise time specifier

Section "Pests, diseases, and natural disasters" uses the imprecise time specifier "in the next 10–20 years". Please insert or append the "When?" template, or perhaps the "As of?" template. 185.161.134.17 (talk) 22:02, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 06:34, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2023

60.242.228.38 (talk) 07:52, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Liu1126 (talk) 14:20, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2024

India MantasPtr (talk) 22:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 23:10, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Use as a slur

Hi Chiswick Chap. Yes, I would like to discuss the inclusion of the section I added that you reverted, as IMO it is pertinent to the article. The physical fruit is used as a symbolic weapon of racial abuse, and the word as a term of abuse (apparently in the US - I had not heard of it before I found that article I linked to, which I expanded earlier). As I was editing on a related topic earlier about a sportsman who had had a banana thrown at him it echoed in my mind that I have often heard or read comments by others asking what it means, and why it's abusive. I think that such people would look at this entry first in Wikipedia to find that out. I feel more strongly about the first use than the second, as it relates to the actual fruit. The second usage is covered on the DAB, but there's no indication anywhere else about the other use of bananas. That was my motivation for adding it, and I would like to hear from other editors to obtain consensus on this one before a reversion. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 10:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I'd have thought that a 'See also' link would provide sufficient coverage; it really has nothing to do with botany, fruit production, or the fruit as such. Well done expanding the article, it provides good coverage of the topic in an appropriate place. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:42, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that the article was restricted to botany and fruit production... and I would argue that it is the fruit itself that is used as a cultural reference when used as a racist taunt, not just the word or a picture or something. However I don't feel so strongly as to keep pushing for a change, and will leave it for others who may read this to have an opinion. :-)

Thanks. I've actually expanded it a little more as it seemed appropriate to have a few more well-known examples in there and to illustrate that it's not just the odd one-off. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Sustainability section: Supporting evidence to the harm of humans

3. Sustainability section, After the harm on aquatic life, is mentioned, it then goes on to include supporting evidence of such harm. Due to me adding how fertilizers can also harm human life I wanted to include supporting evidence for that also. a. Before: “It had been theorized that destruction of 60% of coral reefs along the coasts of Costa Rica is partially from sediments from bananas plantations.”

b. After: “It had been……” These harmful chemicals cause cancer and mutations in humans. Not to mention the workers in these bananas fields that exposure to these chemicals daily.

Semi-protected edit request on 22 June 2024

Please make "sunlight" in Banana#Panama disease redirect to https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight Hanoi89computerlover (talk) 07:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Common terms like "sunlight" should not be linked per MOS:OVERLINK. Also, you're linking the Simple English Wikipedia article. Liu1126 (talk) 07:32, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2024

glucanase discovered in dental plaque from 12th century BCE philistines <- not right, should be 2nd cen BCE philistines as in source Chadboi41 (talk) 08:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: No, source explicitly says "12th century BCE". Perhaps you were confused by its mention of "2nd millennium BCE" which spans that date, i.e. 2000-1000 BCE. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC)a