Talk:Bandit-warfare Badge

Edit by Elshane 5-6-2009

I added some information about this award, all of which is from sources I have found on the internet and cited below. This is my very first time making a major edit to a wiki page, so if it is incorrect or just plain bad, I take full responsibility for that, and please correct or improve things as necessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elshane (talk • contribs) 20:15, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

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The name is confusing: it's both "anti-partisan" and "guerrilla" (which is the same thing). Would there be any objections to moving to "Bandit-warfare Badge"? K.e.coffman (talk) 22:53, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

It is not so-easy as the translation most common is "anti-Partisan" per English sources I have reviewed although "bandit" is referred to; but the Germans would use several terms, many times hiding the true nature of what they were doing; many operations, as you know were a mixture of killing operations and some security operations but many times they were like the Pripyat swamps (punitive operation). Kierzek (talk) 23:50, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

This could be one of the few cases where it could make sense to go with the German name: Bandenkampfabzeichen. I find "anti-partisan guerrilla warfare badge" to be both confusing and euphemistic. Feedback? I could open a WP:RM to get wider input. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:12, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

In my academic research, most of the text books on this award refer to it as the "Anti-Partisan Guerrilla Warfare Badge" which seems to be the most accepted version in English. I would say we should stay with what works. -O.R.^Comms 20:20, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

The current name is Nazi. The Nazism is banned in many countries. The German page says Partisanen galten im Sprachgebrauch der Nationalsozialisten als „Banden“.Xx236 (talk) 06:49, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

The Nazis describes some people as louses. Would you describe a Louses-warfare Badge?Xx236 (talk) 06:47, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

I know you disagree, but to me Bandit warfare sounds almost jovial or frivolous, whereas anti-partisan conveys the brutal dirty warfare that goes with rooting out an enemy almost indistinguishable from the local population. Unnecessarily (talk) 16:06, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

The problem is that the operations many times were not against “partisans”, that was just the word used to hide the murder operations. Kierzek (talk) 15:48, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I understand that, but bandit hardly conveys the gravity of it either 🤷🏼‍♀️. I don't think there is a word that covers it. Unnecessarily (talk) 18:17, 17 December 2022 (UTC)