Talk:Bang-Bang Club
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Totally off wikipedia spectrum, but if Joao or Greg ever get to read this. You guys are fucken heros. Just sayin. 58.7.0.146 18:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
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editWoudl you really say that the Bang-Bang Club ended with the death of Oostrebroek? Or was it just the general winding down after the apartheid era was finished? hbdragon88 05:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
-- A bit of both really. Oosterbroek's death seemingly 'broke' the group's coherence, but the end of Apartheid also removed the urgency that drove the group. 58.7.0.146 (talk) 11:58, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Ken Oosterbroek
editI personally think that he deserves so much more than a blank wikipedia page. Someone with more information about him, flesh it out.--Normal Phobic (talk) 17:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
from the apartheid system to government based on universal suffrage.
editHello this part of the first phrase I chance: "from the apartheid system to government based on universal suffrage."
Desmond M. Tutu, Archbishop Emeritus of Cape Town, South Africa marked this time as a fight "from repression to freedom, from totalitarian rule to democracy." Source is the book „The Bang-bang Club: Snapshots From A Hidden War“ by Greg Marinovich & Joao Silva , 2000, P ix (9). I write now "from the apartheid system to democracy." Best.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 06:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Reception : The Bang-Bang Club and more
editHello - I started to add more text and information to this Bang-Bang Club. I find the work of this photographers very admirable. For this I use the first edition of the book "The Bang-Bang Club: Snapshots From A Hidden War". First print William Heinemann, London, 2000, and for the citation the first print Basics Books, New York, 2000. best.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 18:52, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Some more edits
editHello : "The Bang Bang Club was a group of photographers and photojournalists" - the four menbers of the club are photojournalist and spezial conflikt photographers at this time- not just some photographers. I chang it.
Second : ...particularly fighting between ANC and IFP supporters, after the lifting of the bans on both political parties. And what about the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging? I add this too.
and starring Taylor Kitsch, Ryan Phillippe, Frank Rautenbach and Malin Åkerman, - maybe this four aktors are not relevant at this top place. Better at films. I added Frank Rautenbach.
"The Bang-Bang Club is a myth,"
edithello - more editing
« Le Bang-Bang Club est un mythe, glisse João. Il n’a jamais existé. Ce n’était que quatre potes qui voulaient témoigner d’un moment de l’Histoire... # "The Bang-Bang Club is a myth," says João. It never existed. It was only four friends who wanted to witness a moment of history. ...[1]
The same, but in other words expreced Greg Marinowich in his and Joao Silva book. Because of this I adding a section about the myth. Best.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 16:51, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Poor quality material
editI find it amazing that an administrator has protected this article in a form which includes the section heading "The Bang-Bang Club in the words by Greg and João". That is not even correct English.
That section is not good. It contains nothing that needs to be in a section of its own, even if it were to be given a decent headline by a native or fluent English speaker. The person who has readded it several times does not seem to understand the text they are putting there, clearly because their English is not good. If Greg Marinovich and Joao Silva say, in a book that they wrote called "The Bang Bang Club", that the club does not exist, they are not actually literally denying the existence of the club.
A couple of sentences may find a place elsewhere in the article. See my edits doing just that. The section itself is not up to encyclopaedic standards and cannot be brought up to them. It must go. Xxctly (talk) 09:40, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello - thanks for coming to the talk page. The section you did blanking Wikipedia:Page blanking is needed for the WP:NPOV. Never ! did Greg, Joao and the other two liked the nick name "Bang-Bang Club. But if a nick name gos viral, what can you do? You tell the world that the Bang-Bang Club is a myht - that never a club like that existed, if you get the orpunity (in a book).
- OK - the rules of wikipedia say everey site owns the right to express her point. WP:NPOV - In this case it is importend that Greg and Joao express her point in a section by his own. Not hidden in some other stuff.
- And writen very simple - so that every grandmother * understand the point. Why this? Because the internet is at this time full of BS about this club and the people involved. *In german we call it "Oma-Test".[1]
- OK - I think we two can find a consens - but at this moment I have no time - RL is handcuffing me. Best.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 19:45, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
- Quite honestly I barely understand what you are trying to say here. I do not think you have at all understood what Marinovich and Silva said, and your English level is not sufficient for you to reliably edit articles here. My advice is leave English Wikipedia to fluent English speakers. Edit the German Wikipedia article if you feel that one is lacking something. Xxctly (talk) 22:07, 24 November 2017 (UTC)