Talk:Banksia aquilonia

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sasata (talk · contribs) 19:44, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

I'll review this. Comments in a few days. Sasata (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

ok Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:03, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

• lead: link Queensland, monograph, variety, bushfire

linked Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:46, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• lead's a bit short; how about a couple more sentence about what it looks like?

enlarged a bit - difficult to figure out how big to make it.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:13, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

• "Distributed broadly," in Australia? Queensland? Doesn't look broadly distributed from the range map below!

not sure how that got there....removed Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:46, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• inconsistent use of endash or "to" when describing measurement ranges

just made 'em all ndashes.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:46, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• "They measure 0.8 to 1.2 cm" not sure if "they" refers to old flowers, oval follicles, or the woody spike form the previous sentence

follicles. tweaked Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:46, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• "The obovate dark grey-brown to black seeds sandwiching a woody separator." obovate - jargon; grammar needs fixing

follicles.I've linked obovate and fixed the grammar Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:52, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

• "distinctive enough for it to be considered a separate species to B. integrifolia." maybe "… considered a species distinct from B. integrifolia."

done Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:00, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

• link morphology

linked Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:51, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• "with plants with normal" reword to avoid repetition

removed first "with" Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• link cladistic, taxonomy

linkedCasliber (talk · contribs) 11:01, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• "Despite initially giving it varietal level" giving->assigning?

tweaked Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:51, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• did you ever get a definitive answer about not capitalizing incomplete sentence figure captions?

99% sure we don't...no sentence..no caps. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• Hmmm, if this is true, then 1000's of captions will have to be changed across the encyclopedia. Note that MOS:CAPTION states "Captions normally start with a capital letter.", and no exception is noted in this regard for non-sentence captions. I'm not worried about it for GAN, but consider changing your 99% surety level if you take this to FAC ;-) Sasata (talk) 05:37, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

• "Trees it grows commonly with include" sounds a bit awkward

rejigged, but not so happy with alternative either.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:01, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• link understorey, Wet Tropics, acidic soil

linked Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:01, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• a similar species section is missing; is this species readily distinguishable from, for example, the other species in series Salicinae?

the last para of description has some differences with integrifolia. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:43, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

• why not include the length of the perianth from Zich & West 2010?

added Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:46, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

• any chance of having pics of the crown, the bark, the white leaf undersurface, or a mature fruit?

will ask. These grow about 3000 km away from where I am.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• Looking more closely, I see that the "developing follicles" image shows the white leaf underside, so have stricken that. Sasata (talk) 05:37, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

• make common name redirects?

apart from "northern banksia" all the other names are very general. Will make redirect for that one though Casliber (talk · contribs)

• apparently the Aborigines called the plant jingana (see here) This same source mentions that the southernmost occurrence is at Proserpine.

no no, it mentions the northernmost occurrence of compar is at Proserpine. added other bit now 13:59, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• nothing useful in the following sources?

Title: Eastern Banksia of the B. integrifolia group.

Author(s): Blake, T.

Source: Australian Plants Volume: 13 Issue: 105 Pages: 200-207 Published: 1985

got this off my shelf - nothing in it which is not covered elsewhere Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:45, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Title: The Banksia integrifolia L.f. species complex (Proteaceae)

Author(s): Thiele, Kevin ; Ladiges, Pauline Y.

Source: Australian Systematic Botany Volume: 7 Issue: 4 Pages: 393-408 DOI: 10.1071/SB9940393 Published: 1994

it is recapped more systematically in the 1996 analysis of the genus Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:43, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

• to be consistent, you should give the annual rainfall in imperial units

added Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:46, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Two final things:

• "50 follicles each, each of which" reword to avoid repetition

one "each" removed...I think there is enough info that not ambiguous.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:49, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

• there's a deadlink that should be fixed

url dead...sadly removed Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:49, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Other than this (and the captions non cap issue), I'm confident that this meets the GA criteria. All images appropriately licensed; promoting now. Sasata (talk) 05:37, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Comments

I see Sasata is taking up the review, but I had a few brief comments to add.

1. Thiele & Ladiges published in 1996, not 1994, according to the citation.

oops/fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:15, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

1. The paragraph should make clear, as in Banksia grossa, that their cladistic analysis was based on morphology. As presently written, the sudden jump from "nested in B. integrifolia" to "off in different clade" is puzzling, and suggests some sort of error in Theile & Ladiges' work; when it's understood that their work was solely morphological, it's not surprising that molecular methods might dramatically rearrange the phylogeny.

added Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:15, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

1. In the references, Mast's name should be linked at first occurrence rather than third.

fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:17, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

1. Have Telopea and Cunninghamia ISSNs?

issns added Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:19, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Yours, Choess (talk) 14:20, 17 November 2012 (UTC)