Talk:Barmouth Bridge/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs) 09:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

• I propose to undertake this review. I am familiar with this bridge as a feature of the Mawddach estuary. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

First reading

In general the article is satisfactory, adequately referenced and illustrated. Here are some points that struck me.

• "... which came under threat from closing." - "threat of closure" I would have thought.

I've reworded this. You could read what was there and interpret that the woodworm was under threat of closure, after all. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

• "... and has one of the longest timber viaducts still in regular use in Britain." - surely "is" rather than "has"?

No, because the viaduct is part of the bridge, but not the whole bridge! Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

• "The section containing the bridge is on the Cambrian Coast railway between Machynlleth and Pwllheli.[3] It is a Grade II* listed structure ..." - The word "it" here would appear to refer to the section of railway line!

Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

• "The north end by the swing bridge section is next to the foot of Cadair Idris," - I would have thought that the summit of Cader Idris is ten miles away so this is a bit of an exaggeration.

The summit is, but the rock formation that is part of it ends at the Mawddach Estuary. I've clarified this with a bit more of the source. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

• "The first two spans here are built directly into the rock." - "onto" would probably be better.

Okay. I think I was assuming the spans were drilled into the rock above ground and secured, but looking carefully that's not the case. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

• "As built, it included a lifting drawbridge section at the northern end to permit the passage of tall ships, constructed entirely of wood." - perhaps move the "constructed entirely of wood" bit as at the moment it seems to refer to the tall ships.

Reworded Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

• "... though it has not been open to ships since testing in 1987." - I think you mean that no ships have actually required it to be opened since 1987.

Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

• "However, the local council were opposed to closing the bridge completely" - Which local council was this?

Fixed. (I guess not everyone knows where Gwynedd is). Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

• "In June, the toll was removed after the couple ..." - the word "couple" is a bit colloquial in this context.

I've gone with "collector" Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

That's all for the moment. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:57, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth: - I think all those issues have been addressed, anything else? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

GA criteria

• The article is well written and complies with MOS guidelines on prose and grammar, structure and layout.
• The article uses many reliable third-party sources, and makes frequent citations to them. I do not believe it contains original research.
• The article covers the main aspects of the subject and remains focussed.
• The article is neutral.
• The article is stable.
• The images are relevant and have suitable captions, and are either in the public domain or properly licensed.

• Final assessment - I am happy with the improvements made to the article and believe it meets the GA criteria. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:45, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks - I've never been over the bridge yet, only seen it from either side on the road, but if I get a chance to have another holiday in this part of Wales, I will - my kids love a train journey. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:57, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Well done to all involved. SovalValtos (talk) 19:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Well you did quite a bit of work on it as well, SovalValtos, so thanks for that! Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:57, 21 October 2015 (UTC)