Talk:Bartosz Staszewski

Translated from https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartosz_Staszewski --Andrei (talk) 11:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 12:08, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

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Staszewski (left) carries a rainbow version of the Polish flag at the 2018 Częstochowa equality march

• ... that the Polish LGBT activist Bartosz Staszewski was accused of desecrating the national symbols of Poland for creating carrying a rainbow version of the Polish flag (pictured)? Source: https://tvn24.pl/polska/czestochowa-bialy-orzel-na-teczowym-tle-brudzinski-profanacja-godla-ra852342-2404188
  • ALT1:... that the Polish activist Bartosz Staszewski created a photo series of LGBT people who live in LGBT-free zones? Source: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.5458268/activist-fights-homophobia-in-poland-with-photo-series-of-lgbt-free-zones-1.5458271

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Maria Paasche
• Comment: Including the image for ALT0 is important, because many readers won't know what the Polish flag looks like.

Created by Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk). Nominated by Buidhe (talk) at 13:06, 10 August 2020 (UTC).

• ALT1 seems to be more on point. The main nomination is a bit too long and confusing, while ALT1 provides a clear and direct contrast. Might be good to include a map. The article itself seems to satisfy all the criteria. --Andrei (talk) 07:53, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

• Andrei, I appreciate the feedback but as you are the main creator of the article we need an uninvolved editor to review it. (t · c) buidhe 08:16, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

• Oh, I see. Thank you! --Andrei (talk) 18:24, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

• Comment if the image of Staszewski holding the flag is to be used, it should be more tightly cropped: there is a lot of visual noise in the image, and lots of random people. The focal elements needs to be clear at a glance. --Animalparty! (talk) 17:43, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

  I tried to crop it better --Andrei (talk) 07:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

• Going to review this. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 17:41, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
• I am sorry, but the picture just is not fit to be featured; the cropped version still has too much noise.
• With a basic check of sources, his birthdate is already not in the source. Source number 2 looks more like a primary source. The march was banned on 9 October (a day later). What is reference number 14? Please fix all of the source issues.
• Copyedit is needed on this article.
• The first hook does not have its reference cite that specifically Bartosz made the flag.
• Merging discussion still in progress.
• @Buidhe: @Andrew J.Kurbiko: hope this helps. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 18:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

A rainbow version of the Polish flag

• User:Vincent60030: Thanks for your review.
• The birthdate was correctly cited when nominated [1] I'm not sure why some editor added it, despite WP:DOB and not being in the source. Now fixed again.
• Primary source is acceptable for what it's being used for.
• The article states that the decision was made on Monday, i.e. 8 October 2018[2], and that the march was scheduled for 13 October (5 days later).
• Ref 14 was fixed.
• Merging was done by Onel5969, now the tag has been removed.
• Hook edited to reflect source
• New image suggested (right) (t · c) buidhe 04:26, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

• Thank you very much for addressing the issues promptly, Buidhe. However, based on the source given, it was stated that a statement was given blah blah on Monday, 8 Oct. The article later stated that "a day later, the march was banned" so it's 9 October. Correct me if the translation was wrong and that I should AGF. And the new image is good! It should be within copyright policies as well for being originally drawn. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:57, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

• OK, I think you are right. I found another source which clearly states that the decision was 9 October, so I fixed it in the article. (t · c) buidhe 22:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

• Nice! We're good to go now! ALT0 is preferred. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 07:45, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Film

The film doesn't look to meet WP:NFILM, but it could be merged here. (t · c) buidhe 12:28, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Death threats

He was made an object of death threats due to this incident:

https://www.rmf24.pl/raporty/raport-rocznica-powstania-warszawskiego/fakty/news-rzucane-butelki-i-mezczyzna-w-slipach-na-balkonie-sa-pierwsz,nId,4645976

http://polskieradio24.pl/5/1222/Artykul/2558881,Wnioski-do-sadu-i-zatrzymania-po-zaklocaniu-Marszu-Powstania-Warszawskiego (see the photo).

His denial and the developments (including the investigations started) are quoted here:

In the last 24 hours I got an unimaginable amount of hate and death threats caused by the articles Do Rzeczy, Public TV owned by goverment , wPolityce and Gazetaplus. I keep reporting all comments that are death threats and other. At the moment there are two Police investigations against death threaths I have received. One case has just been been sent to the Court.

https://konkret24.tvn24.pl/polska,108/bart-staszewski-to-nie-ja-bylem-na-balkonie-przez-fake-newsa-aktywista-padl-ofiara-hejtu,1025312.html

I think it is DUE to include this, taking into account BLP etc. of course. Death threats, being formally verified by police, are encyclopedic.

Zezen (talk) 08:09, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Revdel

Noting that I have revdelled a significant number of revisions of this article, because of a copyright violation that was introduced on 13 Feb 2021. If anyone wants to use the source in question to write stuff in their own words, it's here. Girth Summit _(blether) 08:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC)