Talk:Battle of Chestnut Neck
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I'ld say this would be a good place to practice looking at the other person's POV. Some examples: "that darkest period of the war" -- for whom? It seems to have been pretty bright for the British. "Privateer" or pirate? Which government had issued their Letter of marque? "capture", "sieze" or "steal" (note that colonists do one, the British the other)? "Having demolished, burned, and laid waste to all they couldn't steal" is another way of saying "having siezed or destroyed enemy combatants' property", or "having justly punished the pirates for their offences against the law of nations". "spies" or "loyalists"? What is the difference between that and "intelligence"? From the cited article the "spies" were deserters from Pulaski anyway: there's an objective difference. "massacre" or "successful attack on a unit of enemy troops"? "From this massacre, it is evident what would have been the fate of Chestnut Neck". I assume this means they would have engaged the enemy and attempted to destroy them. How about "After this successful action a follow-up attack on Chestnut Neck would clearly have been the next move" Have fun! Richard Pinch 07:19, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Queries
editTwo queries come to mind when reading this offering:
1. In the 'Background' section, para 3:
"...a fleet of nine ships and transports"
Shoud the 'ships' be warships? As a 'transport' is presumably also a type of ship, albeit a merchant one.
2. In the 'Aftermath' section:
It is stated that "the British were able to surprise an outpost of Pulaski's men, bayonet the sentry and almost all of the other men."
At the moment, the article gives the impression that fifty men suffered stab wounds, when the infobox gives just one. Is a word missing between 'and' and 'almost', (like 'overcome'), or is the infobox wrong?
Wrong river?
editI'm going to visit the Chestnut Neck Battle Monument in Chestnut Neck, Port Republic, NJ, this weekend. It's at a very snaky part of the Mullica River, not the Little Egg Harbor River. The river dumps out into the Great Bay, not the Little Egg Harbor. If I'm wrong, fine, but if not, can somebody please make the corrections? PaulSank (talk) 01:25, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- As the first sentence says: "Little Egg Harbor River (now known as the Mullica River)". The whole region was the Little Egg Harbor. It's all the same thing. SnowFire (talk) 04:20, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out what I failed to notice! The latter point seems to jibe with the map, but the Great Bay is labeled like a primary location on Google Maps, which befits the Bay's status as an exceptionally pristine place that is of great benefit to wetlands research. So, if the privateers came primarily through it, then does the Bay merit a mention? PaulSank (talk) 12:56, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it depends. Do the sources talk about it? This is a quite lightly referenced article currently, and the entirety of "The Affair at Egg Harbor, New Jersey, October 15, 1778" is available to read for free on Google Books. I don't see a lot of discussion on the Bay specifically from a quick glance, but if you want to improve the article and can find some more sources discussing the history of the battle - and potentially any connections to the Bay & larger area - go for it! SnowFire (talk) 11:31, 10 September 2022 (UTC)