Talk:Battle of Finnsburg

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Otto S. Knottnerus in topic Phase One: The siege battle

Move to Battle of Finnsburg

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Results Search phrase
5440 Battle of Finnesburh
2560 Battle of Finnsburh
821 Battle of Finnsburg
161 Battle of Finnesburgh
156 Battle of Finnesburg
122 Freswael
44 Battle of Finnsburgh
7 The Freswael
0 Battle of Finnburg
0 Battle of Finnburgh

As of 22 October 2011, these are the number of search results for various phrases describing this battle on Google Books[.] The current name of this article, Battle of Finnburg, has zero results, and the greatest number of results are for Battle of Finnsburg. I propose we move this article there. --Sbp (talk) 13:00, 22 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

With more searching, I find that Battle of Finnesburh is even more popular, so I've updated the proposal. Note that these figures don't reflect trends over time. --Sbp (talk) 15:14, 22 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
To get an overview of how the most recent scholarship handles the name, I tried Google Scholar instead. Here are the results for books and papers since 1992:
Results Search phrase
832 Finnsburg
262 Finnsburh
154 Finnesburg
82 Finnesburh
55 Finnsburgh
I also did a search for 'Finn Hnaef Hengest' in books and papers from the 21st century, and looked through them to see what forms they use. Finnesburh is used once, Finnsburh is used four times, and Finnsburg eight. From this I think it's quite clear that Battle of Finnsburg is the modern consensus name. I've struck through my comments above since they are no longer relevant arguments. --Sbp (talk) 16:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Jutes or Frisians

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Whether eotena means Jutes or giants is important. I am, though, confused that there doesn't seem to be a discussion of the alleged interchangeability of the names Jutes and Frisians. Geography and linguistics have that these be two different and separate peoples. The terms therefore can not be used interchangeably without at least causing confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxthedog (talkcontribs) 18:15, 22 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Phase One: The siege battle

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Unfortunately, the characters of Garulf and Guthere were swapped. Acccording to Chambers Garulf was the attacker and Guthere the councelor. More recently: Neidorf 2020.Otto S. Knottnerus (talk) 14:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply