Talk:Battle of Inab

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Adam Cuerden in topic Featured picture scheduled for POTD

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I am reverting the editor's change who put back Jihad being relatively new, because it is not true. Jihad is in the Koran and had been well-known to Muslims for more than 400 years.--AssegaiAli 12:52, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Yes but as far as I understand, the concept of jihad as "let's go conquer the infidels" was dormant in the 11th century (at least in the Middle East, where they had already conquered everyone, and were in the process of being conquered themselves by Islamicized Turks). The crusades caused that aspect of jihad to be re-examined (by Ali ibn Tahir al-Sulami for example). Adam Bishop 16:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

I wouldn't use the word 'dormant'; perhaps ignored is closer. Jihad was quietly forgotten during the 10th century when the emperors John I and Nicephorus II scored a series of spectacular victories against the Syrian and Mesopotamian Arabs and they settled on peace out of pragmatism. After 1071 when the Byzantines were defeated then it was used as an justification for attempting to conquer Anatolia (as you say by the Turks). Subsequently the crusaders' spectacular successes (from 1097 up until about 1120) so stunned the local Middle Eastern rulers that they made haste to accommodate themselves to the new order. Only afterwards did they discover that they could defeat the crusaders and it became convenient to raise the issue of jihad once more. Under Islamic law, jihad is always an option, which is why it can be highly offensive to people of other religions(my experience of Sikhs and Hindus I know). Today it is fashionable to soft-pedal on its implications but in medieval times it was commonly used to justify a permanent state of war broken only by truces such as between the caliphate and the byzantines throughout the 600s, 700s and 800s.--AssegaiAli 16:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Ensured that the article is: within project scope, tagged for task forces, and assessed for class. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

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In the source I gave, it is stated that Shirkuh was also present in that war. why did you remove it? Artabanusx (talk) 22:49, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

"removed individual from infobox, not mentioned in the article". Why are you not using English sources? Instead you are using a source that is unverifiable? --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:37, 15 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hello! This is to let editors know that File:BattleOfInab.jpg, a featured picture used in this article, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for June 29, 2024. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2024-06-29. For the greater benefit of readers, any potential improvements or maintenance that could benefit the quality of this article should be done before its scheduled appearance on the Main Page. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.9% of all FPs. 23:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

 

The Battle of Inab, also called the Battle of Ard al-Hâtim or Fons Muratus, was fought on 29 June 1149 during the Second Crusade. The Zengid army of Nur al-Din Zengi destroyed the combined army of Raymond of Poitiers and the Assassins of Ali ibn-Wafa. The Principality of Antioch was subsequently pillaged and reduced in size as its eastern border was pushed west, and both Raymond and his ally ibn-Wafa were killed. This illustration by Jean Colombe was taken from the 14th-century manuscript Passages d'outremer and depicts the Battle of Inab in the main image above, with the recovery of Raymond's body depicted below. It is part of a volume of 66 such full-page miniatures.

Illustration credit: Jean Colombe

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