Talk:Battles of Zhawar

Good articles, but...

Raoulduke47:

The Zhawar article is another fine start by you in chronicling the battles of the 1980s war. However, I do believe that it suffers from an unnecessary anti-Soviet bias, largely because of the sources you are using. The works of Grau and Youssaf tend to be partisan in favor of the mujahideen. In the future I would like to introduce you to some other sources on Zhawar, and perhaps we can agree to some ammendments to the article.

Kenmore 07:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, my primary source for writing this was an article based on mujahideen accounts of the battle, so it naturally leans towards their perspective. I think it is rather unfair to say Lester Grau is biased against the Soviets: he has also written books and articles in collaboration with Russian historians showing the Soviet view of this war. As for Youssaf, he is an officer of the ISI, and so he presents the Pakistani POV, that is not necessarily invalid. But by all means, introduce your sources!

Raoulduke47 20:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 03:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

статья стоит признать предвзята и написана с моджахедовских позиций и потери здесь основаны на данных моджахедах также как и информация про силы сторон и якобы имевшиеся танки на их стороне, хотя на самом деле здесь можно было использовать работы Лестера Грау в сотрудничестве с российскими историками, отражающие советский взгляд на эту войну или теже самые воспоминания генерала Ванникова и Громова которые имеют другой взгляд на те события Цйфыву (talk) 22:45, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

the article should be recognized as biased and written from the mujahideen positions and the losses here are based on the data of the mujahideen as well as information about the forces of the parties and the supposedly available tanks on their side, although in fact it was possible to use the work of Lester Grau in collaboration with Russian historians, reflecting the Soviet a look at this war or the same memories of General Vannikov and Gromov who have a different view of those events Цйфыву (talk) 22:48, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Location?

I'm assuming this is the same Zhawar Kili located in Khost Province, not Paktia Province. I also noted that the Dawri Gar mountain near Zhawar is also located in Khost Province near the border with Pakistan. This needs to be revised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.94.221.133 (talk) 23:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)