Talk:Bayt Jibrin/GA2

GA Review

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Initial overview

Starting review.Pyrotec (talk) 19:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I've read it through once; and on that basis it appears to met Wikipedia:Good article criteria, but I need to go through it now in depth a few times before I make a decision.

Two minor comments:

• In the Archaeology section, the statement that the Four Seasons mosaics were "defaced in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War" needs a citation.

It is already covered by the Studium Biblicum Fransicum - Jerusalem ref. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

It does appear to be mentioned in Reference 22, but the statement does not have an in-line citation calling up Ref 22. Perhaps some copyediting has been done - that statement is preceded by ref 50 and succeed by ref 51. Ref 22 is invoked by the sentence following ref 51.Pyrotec (talk) 21:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Oops, now I see. I'll fix it immediately.

• Ref 5 states "Jewish Wars Josephus Flavius IV:447"; with no further details given (it's not listed in the Bibliography). I've got the Penguin Classics [1959] (revised 1970) version and I managed to find the reference; interestingly Idumea appears multiple times in the index but not Betaris. If there are no objections, I propose to add the Penguin Classics edition, with a page number, to the Bibliography section.Pyrotec (talk) 20:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

No objections ;). --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Caves

I'm not quite convinced that the number of caverns and caves is a "A unique geographical feature of the Bayt Jibrin region..." is this statement referenced anywhere? I'm looking at a chapter by Anderson, James D. Chapter 26: "The Impact of Rome on the Periphery: The case of Palestina - Roman Period (63 BCE-324 CE) in: Levy, Thomas E. (Edr) (1995). The Archaeology of Society in the Holy Land. London: Leicester University Press. It mentions many caves in the western and south western foothills of Judaea and in Lower Galilee. Many adjacent to villages, made by villagers and occupied during war and insurrection, particularly during the Bar Kochba period. There are also the well known Qumran caves.

Could we agree on: "The Bayt Jibrin region contains a large number of underground caverns ......"?Pyrotec (talk) 21:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Moshe Sharon on pp.126-131 describes the caverns/caves as being "in the greater vicinity of Beit Jubrin." Either suggestion is fine.--Al Ameer son (talk) 22:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

GAR

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   Comprehensive

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   Comprehensive

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Congratulations, I'm awarding GA status.Pyrotec (talk) 22:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)